Hi Dean,

You’ve resumed my thinking !
As long as it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries I will oppose it.

Regards, 


> Le 4 févr. 2015 à 14:54, Dean Pemberton <d...@internetnz.net.nz> a écrit :
> 
> There are a number of things that concern me about this proposal. 
> 
> 1) it doesn't appear to support needs based allocation
> 2) it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries which operators have 
> said repeatedly is a major issue. 
> 
> As such I do not support this proposal in its current form. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 4 February 2015, HENDERSON MIKE, MR 
> <michael.hender...@nzdf.mil.nz <mailto:michael.hender...@nzdf.mil.nz>> wrote:
> I agree with Owen
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net <> 
> [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net <>] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2015 4:05 p.m.
> To: Masato Yamanishi
> Cc: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net <>
> Subject: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand 
> expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space
> 
>  
> 
> I will again oppose this as written. I would much rather see policy deliver 
> nibble-boundary based allocations.
> 
>  
> 
> I would rather see such organizations issued new /28s than expand these /32s 
> into /29s.
> 
>  
> 
> Owen
> 
>  
> 
> On Feb 3, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Masato Yamanishi <myama...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Dear SIG members
> 
> The proposal "prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation
> size in legacy IPv6 space" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
> 
> It  will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 39 in Fukuoka,
> Japan on Thursday, 5 March 2015.
> 
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
> 
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
> 
>      - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>      - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>   tell the community about your situation.
>      - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>      - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>      - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>   effective?
> 
> 
> Information about this proposal is available at:
> 
>     http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-112 
> <http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-112>
> 
> Regards
> 
> Masato
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> prop-112-v001: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in
>                legacy IPv6 space
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Proposer:    Tomohiro Fujisaki
>              fujis...@syce.net <>
> 
> 
> 1. Problem statement
> --------------------
> 
>     IPv6 minimum allocation size to LIRs is defined as /32 in the "IPv6
>     address allocation and assignment policy"[1].
> 
>     In late 2006, sparse address allocation mechanism has implemented
>     to manage APNIC IPv6 address pool. The block `2400:0000::/12' has
>     managed with this mechanism.
> 
>     Before 2006, /29 was reserved for all /32 allocations by sequential
>     allocation method made from those old /23 blocks (Legacy IPv6
>     block).
> 
>     These reserved blocks might be kept unused in the future.
> 
> 
> 2. Objective of policy change
> -----------------------------
> 
>     This proposal modifies the eligibility for organizations in the
>     legacy IPv6 block to extend their IPv6 address space up to a /29
>     (/32 -/29) by request basis.
> 
> 
> 3. Situation in other regions
> -----------------------------
> 
> RIPE-NCC:
>     The policy "Extension of IPv6 /32 to /29 on a per-allocation vs
>     per-LIR basis" is adopted in RIPE-NCC and LIRs in RIPE region can
>     get up to /29 by default.
> 
> 
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> ---------------------------
> 
>     - define 'legacy IPv6 address blocks'
>       2001:0200::/23
>       2001:0c00::/23
>       2001:0e00::/23
>       2001:4400::/23
> 
>     - Add following text in the policy document:
> 
>       for Existing IPv6 address space holders
> 
>       LIRs that hold one or more IPv6 allocations in the legacy IPv6
>       address blocks are able to request extension of each of these
>       allocations up to a /29 without meeting the utilization rate for
>       subsequent allocation and providing further documentation.
> 
> 
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> -----------------------------
> 
> Advantages:
> 
>       It is possible to utilize address blocks which is potentially
>       unused into the future.
> 
> 
> Disadvantages:
> 
>       Some people may argue this will lead to inefficient utilization of
>       IPv6 space since LIRs can obtain huge address size unnecessarily.
>       However, this will not happen because larger address size needs
>       higher cost to maintain that address block.
> 
> 
> 6. Impact on resource holders
> -----------------------------
> 
>       NIRs must implement this policy if it is implemented by APNIC.
> 
> 
> 7. References
> -------------
> 
>       [1] IPv6 address allocation and assignment policy
>           http://www.apnic.net/policy/ipv6-address-policy 
> <http://www.apnic.net/policy/ipv6-address-policy>
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