the dvd-ram drive I saw on buycomp.com claimed it could do CD-R, CD-RW,
DVD-R, and DVD-RW.. check for yourself..

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Andrew A wrote:

> Ok now we must differentiate between a dvd-r / dvd-rw and dvd-ram.
> 
> dvd-r/rw == expensive (over 5 grand)
>                     discs written by dvd-r/rw can be read in ANY dvd-rom
> unit..
> 
> dvd-ram == not as expensive (300 +)
>                     discs cannot be read in any other dvd-rom unit, be it in
> a
>                     computer or standalone. ONLY readable in other dvd-ram
>                     units.
>                     "DVD-RAM is simply a storage device and does no encoding
> or
>                       decoding.  Simplisticly, you could think of it as the
> optical equivalent
>                       of a removeable hard disk drive."
> 
> HTH
> Andrew
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Justin Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Andrew A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: wired story on the DVD hack
> 
> 
> > panasonic also has them - actually, they were the first, and the prices
> > have gone down.. you can get a dvd-ram drive off of buycomp.com for $370
> > or so, and that's SCSI - it does CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW, comes w/ a dvd-ram
> > media I think, which is worth ~$30
> >
> > -Justin
> >
> > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Andrew A wrote:
> >
> > > I hope you meant "EXpensive" instead of "INexpensive", unless of course
> you
> > > consider over 5 grand inexpensive....  Here's the ony two dvd-r and
> dvd-rw
> > > units i've seen for sale:
> > >
> > > http://www.pioneerusa.com/cd_dvd.html#dvdrec
> > >
> > > Just wanted to give an example.... yes they do exist!!
> > > lol
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Justin Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Mark Hattarki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: SIGLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: wired story on the DVD hack
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Quick naive question: What was preventing you from just doing a
> complete
> > > > > raw copy of the DVD? Is there a portion of DVD-Rs that is not
> writable
> > > or
> > > > > something? It seems like if there is a key on the DVD, and you copy
> > > > > everything as is, the DVD player would not know the diff between
> your
> > > copy
> > > > > and the original.
> > > >
> > > > This was also addressed in the article (because I thought the same
> thing
> > > > ;p) the current writeables are not big enough to handle a movie, by
> about
> > > > 1GB.. some time next year, they are planned to 'grow' - the guy who
> wrote
> > > > the article speculated that they will probably have to resolve the
> piracy
> > > > issue before then - good luck ;p
> > > >
> > > > DVD-R drives are, from what I hear, pretty inexpensive at this point..
> I'm
> > > > wondering if they work w/ apps like cdrecord, and just have a bigger
> > > > filesystem or something like that.. maybe I'll look into it.. they
> also
> > > > have DVD-RAM drives, which are pretty smooth.. kinda like CD-RW but I
> > > > think better.. hopefully this time around someone got the idea to just
> > > > save space for the filesystem and not worry about the multisession
> crap ;p
> > > >
> > > > -Justin
> > > >
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