On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 20:05, Richard Darst wrote:

> This is the third time I've tried to send this message.  The second
> time, the machito spam filter caught it, and told me to add "banana"
> to the subject line to let it through.  




Dude, why don't you use a Bayesian spam filter (such as SpamAssasin or
Spamprobe) like the rest of the known universe ?

> 
> ----- 
> 
> oops... too bad the Reply-to header doesn't Do The Right Thing by
> default.  Here's my advice:
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Richard Darst <rkd zgib.net> -----
> 
> From: Richard Darst <rkd zgib.net>
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:34:04 -0600
> 
> I once had something like this happening to me.  Check the output from
> "dmesg" and see if there are any clues. maybe
> /var/log/{syslog,kern.log}.
> 
> You imply that it was working alright before, so I will assume that
> it's not configuration.  For me, the disk had errors, so the kernel
> was detecting errors and remounting the filesystem read-only as a
> safety catch.
> 
> The way I bought myself more time without rebooting was:
> 
> mount -o remount,rw /  
> 
> This takes the filesystem that is ro (here, /) and moves it back to
> rw.  Of course, the kernel made it ro for a reason, so beware.  It may
> go back to ro if it detects more errors.  If it doesn't fault again
> too fast, maybe you are OK for the time being.  For me, I had to put a
> command in crontab to test for read-onlyness and remount if it was.
> (Not that it was the safest thing to do, but oh well).
> 
> AFAIK, the mount command above is safe from the kernel point of view,
> but if the disk is bad or something is corrupted, there may be big
> problems.  (i.e. I have no worries using it on a properly working
> system.)  It won't let you switch from rw to ro if files are in use.
> 
> Of course, maybe something entirely different is wrong.  Tell us how
> it turns out.
> 
> RD
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 03:56:57PM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have been getting some odd behavior from my home debian linux
> > machine lately.  Consider the following...
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo testing1234 >> junk.text
> > -bash: junk.text: Read-only file system
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll junk.text
> > -rw-r--r--  1 billj 79438 Oct 24 21:50 junk.text
> > 
> > ...the above I consider very odd behavior.  Just for grins, what
> > happens when I try this...
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ chmod u+w junk.text
> > chmod: changing permissions of `junk.text': Read-only file system
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 
> > 
> > ...Hrm....Well, I searched google groups and am pretty bamboozled
> > (because fixes appear to involve scary commands such as "fsck" and
> > "mount" about which I know nearly nothing).  They chatter in google
> > groups seems to further suggest hard drive issues.  Uh oh.
> > 
> > This seems to be the root of other new problems: E.g. Firefox is
> > complaining.  And gunziping some archived files is impossible.  When I
> > try these things, I get the same error, i.e. "Read-only file system".
> > I get a nice close shave with Occum's Razor so am I remiss in assuming
> > this is all caused by the same problem?
> > 
> > Might these odd behaviors be related to sudden downtime freeze ups I
> > have had recently?  Here is what happened: My linux box froze (and,
> > Dear Windows fans, this is something that happens about 1 time per
> > decade with me).  I power cycled and it appeared to rebooted happily
> > (to my ignorant eyes at least).  Did I try to write anything
> > immediately after this reboot?  I dunno.
> > 
> > I should also add that over the summer I had some signs of disk
> > failure in the making.  In fact I emailed siglinux about them.  This
> > was when I was budget cutting and my apt was warmer than usual.
> > People (off this list) said disks are very sensitive to temp.  When I
> > lowered my room temp, failure ceased.  So, I assumed all was well
> > enough.
> > 
> > I've been getting that scary sound again (kind of like a relay that
> > keeps turning on an off...sometimes once in isolation, sometimes 5-20
> > times in rapid succession) tho maybe not as often/intensely.  Has my
> > apt temp been creeping up again?  Maybe.  In response I've reverted to
> > keeping my apt cooler still.  Has that sound happened less often?  I
> > think so.
> > 
> > So, I am going to suspect that I need:
> > 
> > (1) a new hard drive...it is about to fail permanently.
> > 
> > (2) until (1) more frequent backups to CD Rom.
> > 
> > (3) a fix so that my file system is no longer read only.
> > 
> > I can take care of (1) and (2) but can someone offer guidance on (3)?
> > 
> > chmod does not seem to fix things.
> > 
> > Bill
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> 
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> Richard Darst  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  lefschetz: up 58 days, 17:14
> 
> "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> 0x91DEC237  -  http://rkd.zgib.net/pgp/
> 
> 
> 
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> Richard Darst  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  lefschetz: up 58 days, 17:55
> 
> "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> 0x91DEC237  -  http://rkd.zgib.net/pgp/


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