On 12/08/2010, at 12:18 PM, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 12/08/2010, at 12:07 PM, Phil Sim wrote:
I find it a little surprising that there has been almost no discussion about the coalition's plan to scrap the NBN. In terms of development of our industry, it is a far worse prospect than the filter ever was.

I'm friends with one of Telstra's senior wireless development staff, involved in the recent world-record wireless networking tests (they achieved 100MBPS over more than 70km using hardware worth $1500). This is around 1% of the
cost of running a comparable physical network.

His point of view is that the proposed fibre-everywhere NBN is utterly unnecessary and a brutal waste of money, compared to the much more sensible and cheaper options available. Even HDTV only requires 3.5MBPS. How many TV shows do you
need to watch at once in *your* house?

I'm not a fan of the coalition and won't be voting for them but I agree with a lot of criticism of the NBN. It's a lot of money spent on what "could" be. Some guy was on the TV last night saying how we'd get instant ehealth and egov solutions as soon as the NBN was created. As someone working everyday with the government to create gGov solutions, it's laughable to think that so many could be convinced we need 100Mb for a gov department to put up a blog. As for new tech that can be created via the NBN? Don't see it. How about if that money was spent on rent assistance for startups? More startup building organisations connected to universities? More university funding so uni's don't have to sell places to OS students? Or putting that money into clean tech or water supply problems? Also think of this, mobile technology has resulted in new businesses, all without Gov assistance. $5000 for every man, woman and child in Au to watch faster youtube and youporn. All because we look at singpore with 10 times our population density and wonder why they have faster broadband?

Sorry, this issue does irk me :)


I'm not familiar with the details of the Coalition's proposal, but it certainly sounds like they're on the right track. Labor can't get over the fact that Telstra got sold, so they now want to re-nationalise telecoms by building a new network. Arguably Telstra shouldn't have been sold, but Labor's response is idealistic nonsense.

yes, at it's heart NBN is about denationalising the phones and that's probably a good thing. It's shit that it's so hard to get naked DSL in this country due to Telstra's monopoly. But surely they should just grow some balls and split up telstra retail from wholesale, regain control of the copper that they should never have given away. They own 50%. Why not pass a law that says the 50% they own is the copper and the rest can be private. They'd have to deal with the shareholder backlash but that's $0 not $40B. Then we can wait and see what technology private sector comes up with that's economically viable.


Clifford Heath.

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