Could you argue that its not a particular country that excels at one thing, but that its the whole ecosystem.
In Silicon Valley, there is a very clear ecosystem and support structures for any aspect of a IT startup (and in some cases, other types of startups, such as biomedical or green energy). In Australia, the eco-system(s) are beginning to emerge, but there are undoubtedly still 'gaps' here and there. For example, web-based startups are doing very well at the moment, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne. However, startups that focus on other aspects of technology or an entirely different industry have bigger struggles because it is harder to convince investors, particularly if they are more 'risk adverse' in comparison to their overseas counterparts. The role of government, perhaps, should be 'minimal intervention' but focussed on helping the ecosystem to emerge and develop further so that it is self-sustaining - focusing on closing out any 'gaps'. For example, Startup Chile, has attracted international talent into Chile through small funding initiatives purely so that they can pass on their knowledge and experience to local startups. This gives an immediate boost to the ecosystem and attracts the attention of international investors too. Visas are one small part of this ecosystem. Whilst I have considered starting a business in the USA or UK, the barriers of entry on 'Business' Visas are too high - a demonstrable minimum investment of $50k up to $250k is typical. You can only do this if you already have the business funded somehow. Many founders cannot afford this, without the investors first, and the investors will want to keep the business local (unless the market opportunity is clearly in another region). The only other option is to get a work visa and start the business from there, nominating yourself as an 'employee' and meeting all the government requirements. Cheers, Nigel On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM, drllau <[email protected]> wrote: > One wonders whether visa incentives are putting the cart before the > horse. If you look at history, creative talent always head to where > other creatives are. Paris was THE place to be for artists, poets and > sculpturors last century, America went through robber baron era of > great industralists, and silicon valley for IT today. > > I think every country has their own particular strengths in innovation > (Australia mining, NZ food) and trying to jump on the bandwagon is > trying to chase a MagLev train (accelerating out of sight). I'd be > happy for the politicians to take a technology neutral stance (no > picking winners) and just work on the basics like education, > industrial policies to encourage tech up-skilling, and enforcing > competition laws. Not trying to adopt extra-legal procedures without > voters input/oversight from federal Free Trade Acts would be a bonus. > Smart people will vote with their feet. > > Look at the wine industry in SA as a classic example of grassroots > innovation (though whatever happened to the cask?) > > Lawrence > http:// nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau > > On Jan 29, 1:46 pm, Liisa Triin Vurma <[email protected]> wrote: > > Only few people can actually apply for the Independent Skilled visa as > they need to have very specific professions to qualify. > > They refer it to as the Skilled Occupation list that mainly consists of > medical professionals, engineers or plumbers. > > > > Speaking of experince, it is very hard and often almost impossible to > come to Australia as a foreigner to start something on your own. > > > > Liisa > > > > On 29/01/2012, at 11:33 AM, Jonathan Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > Sure, there is that option. With the general skilled migration visa > > > you are not tied to any specific employer. > > > > > All that faces said prospective entrepreneur is a 8 month to 2 year > > > wait (offshore processing), about 4-6k AUD in fees, this isn't taking > > > into account the amount you would also need to pay a migration agent. > > > > > Is this really the policy Australia is betting on if it entrepreneurs > > > to come to its shores? > > > > > Be aware I'm taking about entrepreneurs who have raised a funding > > > round and wish to set up shop (headquarters) in Australia and not > > > general migrants. > > > > > The US seems to face a similar problem, I've heard of people heading > > > to Singapore or Hong Kong instead when their applications are in > > > limbo. > > > > > It's not an easy problem to solve! So I'm guessing my question is > > > what Australia be focusing on bringing more entrepreneurs to its > > > shores? > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Lyon > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I'm pretty sure we already have a form of that. > > > > >> I can't cite the program name exactly but I thought it was classed > > >> under the Skilled Migration visa class. > > > > >> If somebody wishes to enter Australia, has the money and the > > >> skills, then a particular visa class already allows them to do that. > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon > Beach > > >> Australia mailing list. Visthttp://siliconbeachaustralia.orgfor more > > > > >> Forum rules > > >> 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. > > >> 2) No jobs postings. 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