Hi Jez

Pin is a different model, with Pin you don't have a gateway account with
the bank and you don't pay those fees. Pin will do a standard bank transfer
into your account. The only little issue there's a 10 day delay on payment.

Overall I think Pin is underrated.




On Friday, February 21, 2014, Jez <mailbox...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Thanks Susan and Michael.
> Ill check out both options but my understanding is the bank (NAB) being
> the issue. The software options with Stripe and others to provide recurring
> seem fine, as does Braintree and eWay, but ultimately we are subject to the
> application hitting the bank's desk via the provider we select. For example
> I spoke to eWay and Braintree and all can be done - BUT - the supporting
> bank they use is likely to knock back the per annum option. Sorry I just
> want to clarify the difference. As I dont see the issue with what can be
> done via PIN, Stripe, eWay or Braintree - but the ultimate gatekeeper
> appears to be the NAB (in this case) and they again told me today is
> unlikely *any *company would be approved for per annum subs. They also
> told me that if I applied via eWay or Braintree, that application will end
> up on their desk ultimately, and most likely knocked back. Irrespective of
> us having traded with per annum subs for 10 years.
>
> If Stripe or PIN are different to this I will certainly check them out
> again. Thanks.
>
> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:39:34 PM UTC+11, Susan Wu wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> It sounds like Stripe might be a good solution for you - not only do we
>> provide the easiest to use API on the market, but we've also got a full
>> subscriptions API too which will allow you to set up recurring
>> subscriptions billing on a yearly basis.
>>
>> If you need any other help, please feel free to email me or
>> sup...@stripe.com (there's a team of smart people available who are
>> happy to help you get started).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Susan
>>
>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:18:11 PM UTC+11, Jez wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> Not sure if anyone has conversed with the NAB about recurring billing of
>>> late, but I was told today (three separate phone calls) that they want us
>>> to sell monthly subscriptions only. I was told categorically it will be
>>> highly unlikely we can sell our software as a per annum subscription.
>>> Our software is installed client side due to the cohort of users we
>>> have. They are often in remote places without internet. Hence the per annum
>>> subscription.
>>> We are an existing NAB client but was considering a change from PayFlow
>>> Link to EWay or a full stack solution like Braintree, hence the call to the
>>> NAB for advice. This change in service apparently results in a new
>>> application to the NAB, despite us having sold our software successfully
>>> like this for the past ten years - with them!
>>>
>>> NAB further stated... we must put up a large deposit to cover any recall
>>> from the customer. They dont want to carry a risk over 365 days. However
>>> one month is OK. They said it is a result of a new NAB policy in this area.
>>> In essence this will kill our business as we cant re-engineer to cater
>>> for monthly activation checks on the subscription. Therefore we will have
>>> to stay put with our current (time consuming) ecommerce solution.
>>> There does appear to be a surge in offering per annum subs now, but
>>> obviously not in Australia where the NAB are involved.
>>>
>>> This was a complete surprise to us and I am wondering if others were
>>> aware of this or had solutions around it? All we want to do is sell our
>>> product from our own website as a per annum subscription.
>>>
>>> Appreciate your thoughts,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
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