talent alone is insufficient (I can give you some papers on cluster 
developmental economics ... eg downsizing of US defense in SanDiego leading 
to Qualcomm, Detroit now regenerating as robotics capital, etc) ... by this 
argument China with x million engineers should be leading the tech race. 
What I vaguely recall (since I'm on pain-killers my memory is rather fuzzy) 
was that there a critique earlier in the year by some professor cum 
investor/advisor who observed that Australia lacked the product development 
labs (and thus customer/market insights) and the specialist talent (think 
IP lawyers, IPO specialists, HCI experts) to make it big (thunderlizard 
big). Just like drug firms, they get bought out after Phase I/ II trials 
because nobody can afford the mass human trials justifying a big enough 
market bet.

Now even if Australia joined ASEAN, the cultural and socio-economic 
differences would not benefit in economies of scale. From a simple ICT 
build or buy argument, it is often easier to import de-risked US or even EU 
tech and modify it for local scene. Now in some emerging cleantech areas 
there could still be opportunities, especially in water conservation due to 
the climate and aricultural base. But IT the boat got missed decades ago 
when CSIRO decided to go down the path of cloud seeding instead of big 
compute iron.

Whilst I'm too low down in the food chain to influence national industrial 
policy, I've observed the China Torch program, what Malaysia is doing with 
Economic Transformation, Singapore's 4 pillars to see that Australia could 
do with more engineers and less lawyers / professional liars ... err 
pollies at the top.

Lawrence
http://www.linkedin.com/in/drllau


On Monday, 15 December 2014 23:39:53 UTC+8, PatrickCollins12 wrote:
>
> Australia does produce talent which is as high calibre as anywhere (that's 
> what our $9b produces Geoff McQueen :)
>
> However SV definitely has a higher proportion of talent domiciled in the 
> region. There is a reason a lot of people call SV Mecca: a lot of people 
> want to come and try their chances at the dream. So proportionately, imho, 
> there is more talent in SV. Though, I think the talent that is "born here" 
> is no better than anywhere.
>
> Back on topic though: what would a silicon beach in Australia need to look 
> like for us to agree on success? Didn't a band of entrepreneurs write a 
> paper for the government and start a mailing list called ... Silicon beach? 
> What was in that paper? :)
>
> Regards,
> Patrick
> (m) 415 578 8929
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, omegaroyal <omega....@bigpond.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Brandon,
> Not sure what you mean by talent problem, but again I argue that there is 
> nothing special about Silicon Valley. Michigan or Sydney or anywhere else 
> there are large numbers of people have the talent (or nature) – just not 
> necessarily the exposure to the right environment (nurture). I have worked 
> in Silicon Valley and I have to say I have worked with better elsewhere 
> before.
> As for the size of population differences I argue this is an old excuse 
> that has worn itself out. Australia has proven it can compete, and it is 
> more to do with per capita rather than population size.
> Warwick
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