talent alone is insufficient (I can give you some papers on cluster developmental economics ... eg downsizing of US defense in SanDiego leading to Qualcomm, Detroit now regenerating as robotics capital, etc) ... by this argument China with x million engineers should be leading the tech race. What I vaguely recall (since I'm on pain-killers my memory is rather fuzzy) was that there a critique earlier in the year by some professor cum investor/advisor who observed that Australia lacked the product development labs (and thus customer/market insights) and the specialist talent (think IP lawyers, IPO specialists, HCI experts) to make it big (thunderlizard big). Just like drug firms, they get bought out after Phase I/ II trials because nobody can afford the mass human trials justifying a big enough market bet.
Now even if Australia joined ASEAN, the cultural and socio-economic differences would not benefit in economies of scale. From a simple ICT build or buy argument, it is often easier to import de-risked US or even EU tech and modify it for local scene. Now in some emerging cleantech areas there could still be opportunities, especially in water conservation due to the climate and aricultural base. But IT the boat got missed decades ago when CSIRO decided to go down the path of cloud seeding instead of big compute iron. Whilst I'm too low down in the food chain to influence national industrial policy, I've observed the China Torch program, what Malaysia is doing with Economic Transformation, Singapore's 4 pillars to see that Australia could do with more engineers and less lawyers / professional liars ... err pollies at the top. Lawrence http://www.linkedin.com/in/drllau On Monday, 15 December 2014 23:39:53 UTC+8, PatrickCollins12 wrote: > > Australia does produce talent which is as high calibre as anywhere (that's > what our $9b produces Geoff McQueen :) > > However SV definitely has a higher proportion of talent domiciled in the > region. There is a reason a lot of people call SV Mecca: a lot of people > want to come and try their chances at the dream. So proportionately, imho, > there is more talent in SV. Though, I think the talent that is "born here" > is no better than anywhere. > > Back on topic though: what would a silicon beach in Australia need to look > like for us to agree on success? Didn't a band of entrepreneurs write a > paper for the government and start a mailing list called ... Silicon beach? > What was in that paper? :) > > Regards, > Patrick > (m) 415 578 8929 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, omegaroyal <omega....@bigpond.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Brandon, > Not sure what you mean by talent problem, but again I argue that there is > nothing special about Silicon Valley. Michigan or Sydney or anywhere else > there are large numbers of people have the talent (or nature) – just not > necessarily the exposure to the right environment (nurture). I have worked > in Silicon Valley and I have to say I have worked with better elsewhere > before. > As for the size of population differences I argue this is an old excuse > that has worn itself out. Australia has proven it can compete, and it is > more to do with per capita rather than population size. > Warwick > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach > Australia mailing list. Vist http://siliconbeachaustralia.org for more > > Forum rules > 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. > 2) No jobs postings. You can use http://siliconbeachaustralia.org/jobs > > > To post to this group, send email to > silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > silicon-beach-australia+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Silicon Beach Australia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to silicon-beach-australia+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach Australia mailing list. Vist http://siliconbeachaustralia.org for more Forum rules 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. 2) No jobs postings. You can use http://siliconbeachaustralia.org/jobs To post to this group, send email to silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to silicon-beach-australia+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Silicon Beach Australia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to silicon-beach-australia+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.