Thanks, Udhay.

Bad me for not following up on the case in more detail.  And thanks for
including the RIAA website bit -- I wasn't able to find it on the curent
site, and IA has been wonky for a few days now (at least for me).



On Dec 31, 2007 12:20 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lawnun wrote: [ on 10:16 PM 12/31/2007 ]
>
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html
> ):
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >Now, in an unusual case in which an Arizona recipient of an RIAA letter
> has
> >fought back in court rather than write a check to avoid hefty legal fees,
> >the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step
> further:
> >In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a
> Scottsdale,
> >Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his
> >personal computer, the industry maintains *that it is illegal for someone
> >who has legally* *purchased a CD to transfer that music into his
> computer.*
> >You got it right kids.  They're going after space shifting and fair use.
> >This now eclipses desperate and moves right into utterly insane.
>
> Engadget say they're not actually suing the guy for this, though
> they're still saying it is illegal to rip stuff you ACTUALLY OWN.
>
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it/
>
> Okay, so we've done some digging into the RIAA's lawsuit against
> Jeffery Howell, in which the industry is claiming that ripped MP3s
> are "unauthorized copies," and it turns out that Jeffery isn't
> actually being sued for ripping CDs, like the Washington Post and
> several other sources have reported, but for plain old illegal
> downloading. As we're all unfortunately aware, that's pretty standard
> stuff; the big change from previous downloading cases is the RIAA's
> newfound aggressiveness in calling MP3s ripped from legally owned CDs
> "unauthorized copies" -- something it's been doing quietly for a
> while, but now it looks like the gloves are off. While there's a
> pretty good argument for the legality of ripping under the market
> factor of fair use, it's never actually been ruled as such by a judge
> -- so paradoxically, the RIAA might be shooting itself in the foot
> here, because a judge wouldn't ever rule on it unless they argue that
> it's illegal. Looks like someone may end up being too clever for
> their own good, eh?
>
> Also, see the below (from another list)
>
>  From the RIAA's website at some point in the past, though it's been
> removed:
>
> "If you choose to take your own CDs and make copies for yourself on
> your computer or portable music player, that's great. It's your music
> and we want you to enjoy it at home, at work, in the car and on the
> jogging trail."
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070516072606/http://www.riaa.com/issues/ask/default.asp#stand
>
>
>
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>
>

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