*beam* It's great to meet you too. I've long been a lurking admirer of your
posts to this list.

I see what you mean about snark, when you said in your first post that it
was destructive. It's too unilateral, and that's always a danger in written
media. I was reading this old
rant<http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/07/myers.htm>by BR Myers
on modern literary fiction last night, and I was enjoying myself
thoroughly at how rude and dismissive it was, but a third of the way in it
got thoroughly monotonous, and I kept saying "Yes, and?" to it.

Austen's humour is amazing, to me, because of how she manages to work it
into her writing in such a non-cynical way [for the most part]. What have
you been re-reading? I just got back home from a  three-month stint in
Calcutta and the first thing I did was to crack open Persuasion, which is
full of hideous characters, and still manages to tolerate and accommodate
them. It's a marvel. A marvel!

Supriya.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Supriya Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I share some of your distaste for the critical venting of spleen, Deepa,
> but
> >  I think in this case the fault lies with me, for quoting the most
> >  eye-catching part of a free-wheeling and catholic review of a
> well-judged
> >  book, and not with Turin and Sanchez.
> >
> >  I don't think they dismiss scents on a popularity basis. *Slate*
> carried a
> >  review last week which carries a couple of nice things they say about
> famous
> >  perfumes: http://www.slate.com/id/2190277/
> >
> >  Their snappy reviewing style is interesting to me for the reasons Udhay
> >  mentions above. To my blunted sense of smell, the simile-laden strings
> of
> >  press-release perfume descriptions mean zilch - the emotional and
> >  intellectual consideration attached to [some of] these reviews keeps me
> more
> >  interested.
> >
> >  Supriya.
>
> Hey Supriya! First of all, nice to e-meet you...and I do agree, what's
> biting is MUCH more interesting than what is polite! (I have just been
> re-reading some Jane Austen, and this is so true even in the more
> gentle form of her wit! "The visit (by relatives)  was ideal in being
> far too short."
>
> And while I hold some opinions on how opinions should be expressed, I
> don't think that everyone should, or would, do things the way I want
> them to be done, unless of course I become Supreme Potentate of the
> Universe. I *am* working on that...
>
> Cheers, Deepa.
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Supriya Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >  > wrote:
> >  > > Turin and Tania Sanchez' book of perfume criticism is something I
> have
> >  > >  wanted to read since the minute I read this review of the
> >  > >  book<
> >  >
> http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2008/03/10/080310crbo_books_lanchester?printable=true
> >  > >
> >  > >  .
> >  > >
> >  > >  That, it turns out, is relatively mild, as their criticisms go.
> >  > Consider
> >  > >  212, from Carolina Herrera: "Like getting lemon juice in a paper
> cut."
> >  > >  Amarige, from Givenchy? "If you are reading this because it is
> your
> >  > darling
> >  > >  fragrance, please wear it at home exclusively, and tape the
> windows
> >  > shut."
> >  > >  Heiress? "Hilariously vile 50/50 mix of cheap shampoo and canned
> >  > peaches."
> >  > >  Princess? "Stupid name, pink perfume, heart shaped bottle, little
> crown
> >  > on
> >  > >  top. I half expected it to be really great just to spite me. But
> no,
> >  > it's
> >  > >  probably the most repulsively cloying thing on the market today."
> Hugo,
> >  > the
> >  > >  men's cologne from Hugo Boss? "Dull but competent lavender-oakmoss
> >  > thing,
> >  > >  suggestive of a day filled with strategy meetings." Love in White?
> "A
> >  > >  chemical white floral so disastrously vile words nearly desert me.
> If
> >  > this
> >  > >  were a shampoo offered with your first shower after sleeping rough
> for
> >  > two
> >  > >  months in Nouakchott, you'd opt to keep the lice." Lanvin's Rumeur
> gets
> >  > a
> >  > >  one-word review: "Baseless."
> >  > >
> >  > >  Admire and appreciate that Turin is apparently a biochemist
> >  > "specialising in
> >  > >  the creation of new smells."
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > I suppose these are maestros of scent who know exactly what they are
> >  > talking about...but such destructive criticism, while it sounds very
> >  > witty, makes me, personally, very uncomfortable, because it posits a
> >  > stance of "only my viewpoint is valid and the people who use these
> >  > scents are idiots". Scents are so subjective that I cannot understand
> >  > how any one opinion can be the only valid one. And I am  with the
> >  > snobbery of "I am so expert that I can slate every perfume which is
> >  > popular."
> >  >
> >  > "If this
> >  > >  were a shampoo offered with your first shower after sleeping rough
> for
> >  > two
> >  > >  months in Nouakchott, you'd opt to keep the lice."
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Oh, come ON! This sounds so clever and mordant...but Mr. Scent
> Expert,
> >  > I would NOT opt to keep the lice after two months in Nouakchott,
> >  > wherever that may be.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Does expertise only mean looking down (looking down one's nose is an
> >  > apt image here!) on others? I understand that some of us have much
> >  > more highly educated noses than others..but surely every scent under
> >  > the sun has its place somewhere in the Universe! "I don't like it" is
> >  > acceptable to me, "No one should like it" is not.
> >  >
> >  > In fact, the same fragrance may affect one differently depending on
> >  > the context. When I was walking through the State Forest at
> >  > Devarayanadurga, the scent of the wild jasmine was everywhere. It is
> a
> >  > strong and heady aroma, and I loved it; my memories of the day are
> >  > completely tinged with that scent. But I would never buy such a
> strong
> >  > scent as a perfume-in-a-bottle.
> >  >
> >  > My earliest memories are of  "Tata Eau de Cologne" (applied to my
> >  > forehead in a folded hanky, whenever I was running a high
> >  > temperature), and I always associated the smell of "Tata Shampoo"
> >  > (remember that annular bottle
> >  > those-who-were-brought-up-at-that-time-in-India?) with clean hair.
> >  > They were, probably, very hoi polloi scents; but I cannot change my
> >  > "Tata Aroma" memories.
> >  >
> >  > Hmm...this smells like a rant...
> >  >
> >  > Deepa.
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Doo-bop.
> >
>
>


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