On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:55 PM, lukhman_khan <lukhman_k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 1. Colombo is sparsely populated in comparison to any Indian city. >
> This changes things a lot.
>
> What changes?  Please elaborate.

Crying snake in an open field is not as effective as doing so in a
crowded market place. Population density and policing is a well
understood problem.

>
>> 2. The police are insufferable as they are, I'd hate for them to
>> have more power.
>
> Who wants the police? The army is the right choice.

*shudder* You are scaring me. Do you really think policing with the
army is a good idea?

This is not about placing as many warm bodies as possible in street
corners. The army is trained from the ground up for a very different
role. The world armies are even now deathly scared of the street
warfare roles they are increasingly asked to play. Traditional
military combat troops are good at advancing under artillery fire and
shooting up just about everything in their gun sights.

Besides, they won't be very effective either. Down to the choice of
their weapons standard troops are a bad idea.

>From my limited knowledge even I know this:  The INSAS rifle uses
ammunition designed to maim rather than kill. The idea is to cause
maximum morale damage on enemy forces by causing them to expend energy
on caring for their wounded. The Special forces like NSG use
sub-machine guns like the HK MP5 which are designed to kill rather
than maim since a wounded terrorist is still dangerous and could set
off a bomb, or kill a hostage. The INSAS is cheap to produce but will
overheat after 10 rounds of continuous fire. Which is ok in
traditional battlezones where battles can last days and you need to
conserve ammo. A terrorist situation in a crowded city is the exact
opposite.

As another example, I couldn't believe that they were allowed to use
the AGS-17 in Mumbai.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGS-17

This is where it should be used
- - http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0003.jpg

This is where it was used
- 
http://img.breitbart.com/images/2008/12/1/081202055832.lks21x0i/CPS.OJP73.021208065536.photo04.photo.jpg

I have no idea how many rounds were fired - but there is absolutely no
way to be sure you are hitting a terrorist and not a civilian when
using a high explosive fragmentation warhead like this.

You would think the blokes directing the operation would know better.
Well either they didn't or didn't care. I can't blame them too much
since they were fighting with whatever they had on hand, however this
should illustrate why the army is just not designed to be in civilian
security situations.


>> 3. The terrorists hitting Mumbai are only able to do so because of
>> underworld's support.
>
> Its quite obvious that you have made that statement based on proper
> information. Please share it.

Both the 1993 & 2006 Mumbai blasts were tracked back to the underworld
and Dawood. There are many stories and books - see "Black Friday: The
True Story of the Bombay Bomb Blasts"

This is from today:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Dawood_directly_involved_in_Mumbai_attack_Russian_intel/articleshow/3856641.cms

Please also read the findings of the judicial inquiries into the Mumbai blasts.

Cheeni

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