On Sunday 18 Apr 2010 7:43:10 am Charles Haynes wrote: > Only when I've been wrongly identified as belonging to a group with > which I do not wish to be associated - usually by some officiously > bureaucratic government agency.
That is exactly my point sir. The need to unregister arises under external pressure. The minute a person can be pressurized to behave or react in a some way, then a politician has a handle on that person. Hindus had no name, no identity of being "Hindu" until someone came along and first said "these people are Hindu" and later said "Hindus behave in this outrageous fashion" It was then that the "I'm a jackass" balloon went up over a whole lot of residents of India to start thinking "Am I Hindu or not". Christians had a definition to describe themselves. Everyone else was not Christian and God had separate plans for them. Muslims had a definition to describe themselves and God had different plans for Muslims and non Muslims. Hindus had, and still have no such self definition. But they are learning that if you are not Muslim, and you are not Chritsian, and you are not Buddhist and not a member of any one of a number of religious orders then you could say you are Hindu if you like. You could deny being Hindu if you want. You can start a new religion that worships donkey shit if you want. After inventing this religion, if you call yourself Hindu there will still be no scriptural basis for rejecting the view that you are Hindu. You can be the head of a donkey shit worshipping cult or religion and still be Hindu. But if you worship donkey shit and try being Muslim or Christian - you will have some trouble getting in and having your view accepted as legitimate. But as long as you can argue your case for donkey shit being an embodiment of the "truth" as envisaged by some Hindus, nobody can say you are not Hindu. You can worship Donkey shit and Shiva side by side if you like. Other Hindus may detest you but hey there is no Hindu rule that Hindus must love other Hindus, as I believe there is for Christians and Muslims. The God or gods do not give a flying fuck whether you love Hindus or hate them. Hinduism is a whole lot if "not this" and "not that". It is nothing in particular. It is in short the ultimate and most degenerate and primeval form of paganism. It was the pagan traits of Hinduism (and similar cults and religions) that were sought to be removed by newer organized religions such as Chritianity and islam. A whole lot of traits that are described as bad and never to be followed in Christianity and Islam are followed cheerfully by people who call themselves Hindu, or are in turn called Hindu by others. Some Hindus support that. Some don't. Some Hindus are facist. Some are not. Some Hindus are sex maniac necrophiles, some are celibate intellectuals. None of them are going to get thrown out of Hinduism. They are welcome to unregister, but most can't register with any other religion unless they conform to something dicated by someone else from some book. shiv
