If I want to forward this thread to someone (as it may be my daughter who is looking to move to India with her American husband and American children, for a few years), how do I get rid of all those annoying "carriage return" symbols?
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nikhil Mehra <nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 08-Feb-2016, at 10:37 PM, harry <listmans...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8 February 2016 at 14:55, Badri Natarajan <li...@badri.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>> On 8 Feb 2016, at 11:46, Nikhil Mehra <nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Absolutely agree with Nikhil. The bureaucracy have no incentive to help >>> your friend. Unless you have Minister level connections to go over their >>> heads, your friends are simply wasting time (and if they waste too much >>> time and go to Court, the Government will try telling the Court that they >>> waited too long, although I doubt you’re at that point yet). >>> >>> I can understand why this is happening..it’s very seductive to think that >>> “something will happen” if they keep talking to bureaucrats - it feels like >>> taking action because so much effort is going into it, and it feels like >>> court will be an unnecessary escalation. But you have two lawyers telling >>> you now that your friends’ best bet is to file a case. >>> >>> This is one of the circumstances where the Indian legal system actually >>> works (more or less) as it is supposed to (as opposed to, say, trying to >>> recover a commercial debt). >>> >>> >> Thanks, see what you mean by "something will happen" syndrome. >> >> Any idea how long such cases take from filing to judgement ?... i always >> hear about cases taking years if not months to come up for a hearing. >> >> Oddly the problem seems to have arisen from a hotel in a small town. This >> lady was staying in the hotel for a few days, had to submit copies of ID >> documents at the desk, and gave the PIO and PAN documents (which the hotel >> apparently has to send to local police chowki ? ) The police didn't >> understand this PIO document and came to the hotel couple of days later to >> "inquire" about her ... found she was a foreigner... and asked for more >> details about her, who she was etc took copy of passport. Thats the only >> brush with police she has had. And this "visa violation" warning that I >> found via immigration source has come from the same regional immigration >> circle office where this town is located. Clearly ignorance of local police >> authorities is something to be wary of ? >> >> > > > Harry, given how egregious this case appears to be, i.e., (i) no reason for > the activities of the deportee to be flagged under any existing law (ii) > refoulement obligations on account of her family in India (iii) past record > of living in, and traveling to and from, India, I think this could be the > sort of case where relief may be forthcoming in a matter of weeks. The whole > thing could be over in a few months - win or lose. > > Egards, > > Nikhil Mehra > Advocate > B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) (NLSIU), LL.M (Northwestern) > > Chambers of Nikhil Mehra > E-348 Ground Floor | Greater Kailash - II | New Delhi 110048 > +91 98107 76904 > nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com > >> >>> On the OCI/PIO thing that’s quite interesting because my wife is actually >>> a PIO holder who is not of Indian origin, in a similar position to your >>> friends. The OCI/PIO merger is a mess - from what we can tell (lots of >>> contradictory information), they HAVE merged OCI and PIO statuses together, >>> so that all PIO cards are now treated as OCI cards and PIO basically >>> doesn’t exist anymore. But there’s also a lot of contradictory information >>> saying that it is preferable to get an “official” conversion to OCI just in >>> case..it’s on our list of things for my wife to do. It can’t hurt, is my >>> view. >>> >>> And yes Harry - OCI, despite the name, is roughly the Indian equivalent of >>> having a US green card and grants (broadly similar) rights and >>> restrictions. It is NOT citizenship or nationality and does not entitle the >>> holder to a passport. >>> >>> >