Hi Chris!, and List,

Well, what we have here, and which you dealt with correctly Chris (and
thanks!), is apparently a sincere and well-meaning person just being
concerned for our safety. And , if this is the case, let me also say THANK
YOU VERY MUCH..Susan Yensen! Please don't think me to be ungrateful.

At 11:11 PM 12/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Thx Susan, You are probabley right, I did hear something to that effect
>with its use in Sweden, but have to wonder if the gold injected was pure
>electro colliodal or chemically dervived. This could make a big differance
>- just speculation of-course.
>

Yes, IT COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE! It could be like night and day, that
kind of difference! Just like the difference of drinking silver nitrate, or
eating a steptic pencil, compared to drinking an ounce of pure 5ppm
colloidal silver water. Night and day. NO? 



>Chris Gupta 
>
>From: [email protected] (Susan M. Yensen)
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Colloidal gold in inoperable cancer.
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>
>There is another thing one should know about gold.  It was and still is a
>treatment for severe rheumatoid arthritis.  

We know....We know...and you are right, it is still used as a treatment for
RH!
Has been since the 20's , or thereabouts. It was also used for the
treatment of alcoholism, depression, cancer, emotional disorders, obeisity,
and still is today (btw). It is used all over the world, has been for a
long time.

>It has lost popularity because of other rememdies.  

Because of the hype of the pharmaceutical companies, just like with silver
colloid. Both are not pantentable, by the way (being pure elements), which
really limits profitability. Especially when folks can make these solutions
for just pennies and cure themselves.


>Rossalind Russell--the actress, had terrible crippling
>RA.  She was taking "gold shots" for it.  She died.  She was burned to
>death from the inside out.  

Now here is the "rub"! This is "heresay evidence". This would not be
allowed in a single courtroom in the country as evidence. Let us not accept
it either! Regardless of the apparent good intentions of the writer. There
is no reason to do otherwise.

What was the method of producing gold solutions used in these "gold shots"?
The ppm? Were gold salts produced in the process (these can be toxic)? How
much of this solution was administered, and how often? Did Miss Russell
have any allergic reaction to the solution? If so, what was it in the
solution she was allergic to? Was she abnormally sensitive to this gold
treatment due to her specific constitution? Did Miss Russell have a
circulatory problem (RH is accompanied by poor circulation), and did this
affect her kidneys, liver, lymph, and other organs of elimination which
could cause a toxic accumulation of the solution in question? Was Miss
Russell bound to a wheel chair, or bedridden and unable to assist her
organs of elimination (through movement/exercise) to excrete the solution
and the resultant micotoxins from the viral/bacterial agents that had been
dying off from the influence of the colloidal solution? Was she drinking
her water like Doctor Jim has told us? :) 

Are there anyother cases where this phenomenon has occurred in all of the
years gold solutions have been administered , and if so, what are the
answers to the above questions in each case? Are we comparing apples and
oranges? Apples and volkswagens? 

Please don't be offended, these questions are asked in a reasonable manner,
and for a good purpose? We do all tend to jump to conclusions at times, and
the media is very good at helping encourage us to do this. :)


>The dosages of this particular remedy and the
>ability of the body to build up quantities have to be considered.  

Quantities of what? We still have no evidence of the chemical that caused
Miss Russell's death. Does anyone even have a copy of the coroner's report?
Or are we going on a newspaper clipping?


>Be careful, evidently the range from therapeutic to lethal is quite narrow.


What do you possibly base this statement on ? Certainly nothing you have
included in this post. There is nothing to base such a conclusion on in
this post. We don't even know that she had been administered a pure
colloidal gold solution. It could have been anything with gold in it, as
far as we know. It could have had any particle size or concentration, and
salt could have been a primary constituent, or maybe worse.


If this is such a huge "threat", why is it no one else is dying this way?
Why don't the headlines each day report of the thousands expiring each day
from being "burned up from the inside out by that terrible caustic toxic
waste call gold"??? I know...I am being over dramatic...sorry. :) How many
thousands are receiving these injections today? How many thousands have
received them from the beginning of this century? How many thousands have
been helped? How many thousands have been harmed? This is sounding an awful
lot like the "argyria scare tactic", and perpetrated by the media (yet
again). Well, there is nothing like being on the cutting edge, right List?

>Blessings,
>Susan=

Susan, if you ever read this post, please consider posting hard evidence on
important claims like these. Heresay "evidence" has to be rejected, it is
not even first hand experience(and thankfully not! :). But , it is not as
though you have had a bad experience with a gold solution and are sharing
the specifics with all of us that we may learn thereby. You could offer
your own testimony, and answer a lot of questions I am sure many of us
would have for you. That would be a good opportunity to learn something,
for all of us. Something to think about , I hope.

Thanks for your concern, and please don't be offended by my role as "list
skeptic"! :)


God Bless,

Scott
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth on Him should not perish , but have everlasting life."