Hello Paul!

Interesting and, dare I say provocative statements! I hope you won't 
get flamed (hint, hint) and we can have a reasonable discussion. God 
knows, there must be newcomers to the list who will be entertaining 
some of the same doubts and concerns. They should see the answers.

To wit..

On  5 Jul 98 at 19:51, Paul Bass wrote:

> I have been here for a while. I was all for silver a first. I am
> not now. I owe an explanation.

> (1) Silver is questionable in it's effectiveness.

*Not* if you talk to those here who have turned themselves around 
with its use. Not if you talk to those who have helped dozens of 
friends and aquaintances with it.

What *is* questionable is the details of it's manufacture and
exactly what is produced by different methods. Nor do we have a
complete understanding of how it works and what it can and cannot do
for certain. 

*Yes* there's a lot of work to be done, *but the core evidence* of
efficacy does *not* go away just because not everyone who tries it
succeeds. It definitely *is* effective where it is effective.

> (2)Silver may have after effects...(turning blue)...I don't want
> it....Do you?

You won't find any evidence that CS as it is made and used today has
caused *anybody* to turn blue. The known toxic effect of
over-ingestion of silver, argyria, has only been seen in cases of
occupational exposure and high dosage silver *salts* that were
prescribed by doctors *many years ago.*

If you study the issue, you'll discover that the total amounts of 
silver being ingested by people using home-made CS and other 
preparations in the few tens of ppm range are so small that it would 
take months and years at very high dosages to accumulate to toxic 
levels *if* every microgram stayed in the body forever.

We've seen evidence that silver, as it is being used by members of
our list, is being excreted just fine, thank you! It is being found
in elevated levels in their feces. Provided it is of small enough
particle size, it just doesn't hang around.

> (3) There are better alternatives..... olive leaf extract ... 
> grapefruit seed extract......no side effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As has already been pointed out, this is simpler and cheaper to make 
than those alternatives. I have no problem with discovering other 
things that are effective. My hope is that people will get better! If 
it's with silver, GfSE, olive leaf extract, or driving around in a 
convertible, I don't mind!

And, since the number one supposed side effect of silver does not 
seem to be happening, then I guess we'll look at the lesser ones, 
like intestinal flora disruption and herxheimer reactions, and see 
what we can learn about mitigating them.

>  Thats it! My two cents worth. I suspect I will be flamed for this.
> That's okay..I enjoy it. 

As I said, your concerns are common and I think you've already 
responded favorably to some of the answers you've gotten.

I *don't* think the *others* here would enjoy a flame fest, however, 
and I hope you'll be as considerate as possible.

On this list we start with the assumption that CS works and is worthy 
of studying. Beyond that, healthy questioning and discussions are 
encouraged, as long as the participants are civil and courteous.

> Hope you read this far, Paul

You were concise and to the point! Be well, sir!

Mike D.
list-owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net                       ]
[Speaking only for myself...              ]


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