Ode Coyote wrote:
To be a little more specific:
You CAN make Chlorine Compounds and gases by running electricity
through salt water, and I did in fact mention that possibility.
[Specifically] "Vitamin O" ***could*** be similar to MMS, but the FTC
lab not detecting such would be a far stretch of the imagination.
Sodium Chlorite or Chlorate is a pretty far cry from salt.
The odds are good that "Vitamin O" is not similar to MMS..or..the FTC
is unbelievably out to lunch.
Scam, wins the odds game in my book.
"Stabilized Oxygen" is not a very specific term.
It lumps different things together like the term "colloidal silver"
gets used to lump different things together...hence the coined "EIS"
..makes it tough to sort through the "miracles"
Actually the documentation from them indicates that the precursor is
sold in health food stores as "Stabalized Oxygen", and that is really a
misnomer because it was being sold before they knew what it really was
doing. When used according the instructions for the MMS, it is actually
making ClO2, chlorine dioxide.
What *MMS* "Miracle Mineral Supplement" [aka SCD ] has to do with
Mineral Supplementation is beyond me. [FDA dodge maybe ]
When mixed with acids such as citric and acetic, it produces chlouros
acid, which then breaks down slowly into chlorine dioxide over the next
12 hours. They could all be classified as minerals, that is non organic
compounds.
I'm not finding anything where the FTC [or FDA for that matter ] has
attacked "Miracle Mineral Supplement", but they might get around to it
as a mislabel if they ever sell 200 million dollars worth of product
like the "Vitamin O" people have.
Big bucks get big attention. "Scam" another story, generally under
the heading of secrecy and ad copy that says absolutely nothing.
Well, ClO2 is approved by the FDA as a disinfectant and sterilizing
agent for many things, including beef and chicken. To then claim that
it does not kill pathogens, or is unhealthy would put them into a rather
untenable position. Also, they have no authority to stop the publishing
of a book, when the publisher is not selling the product, nor the seller
of the product, if no health claims are made by them. Of course they
have done such things as stop the publishing of the books on health, but
no legally. Very similar to CS.
To MMS credit, they aren't "hiding" what it "is" [If you look just
behind the name, that is]
Pretty darned straight up, even if it doesn't work.
At least, if you burn your tongue off, you know where to go with it.
[exaggeration]
Well, the reason for publishing the book on it, and telling everyone how
to make it would seem rather unclear since the publisher of the book
does not make nor sell it. He does give the names of a couple of people
who do though, if you don't want to make it yourself. As for me, I am
ordering 5 pounds of sodium chlorite to play with. It seems that the
copyright notice is pretty telling on the book. It basically says that
the book becomes public domain and can be published by anyone for free
or for profit if the author is jailed, imprisoned, murdered or turns up
missing for over a month. It certainly sounds like at least he thinks
he has something valuable.
"stabilized chlorine dioxide" (SCD)...aka MMS.... Still a misnomer,
but is a better label ... has an established reputation of sorts.
Mr Humble didn't invent it. [I don't recall seeing that specific
claim] He used it in a different than accepted application.
"If" it kills Malaria parasites etc....and not the people, good for
him...and them.
What is produced from what I can determine is chlorous acid, which is
unstable and produces a rather even amount of CO2 over the next 12
hours. Pretty neat chemistry actually. Here is what happens.
First sodium chlorite is pretty well unaffected by strong acids, such as
hydrochloric acid (stomach acid). So taking it directly is of pretty
limited value. However it is converted to chlouros acid by certain acids
such as acedic and citric acid on sodium and potassium chlorite (as
confirmed by the patent I posted the link to last friday). Once again,
chlouros acid is not broken down by stomach acid, so over time it breaks
down into ClO2. The fairly evenly produced ClO2 then is taken up
immediately by the red blood cells, which are unable to differentiate it
from oxygen. They circulate, staying attached to the red blood cells
until they encounter something with a reversed charge on it (IE a
pathogen or virus), at which time they immediately react with the
pathogen, ripping 5 electrons from the pathogen, and killing it by
oxidation. Apparently it selectively oxidized pathogens, pretty well
like CS does, but also may not suffer from the same limitations of
penetration that CS does (possibly getting into nerve ganglia where
herpes hides, cartlidges where lyme hides, and the brain where other
things can hide). On the down side it does not appear to promote
healing by allowing cells to revert to their stem cell state in injured
areas like CS does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide
Sodium chlorate
(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium>Na<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine>Cl<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen>O3)
is an <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidizing_agent>oxidizing agent.
It is mostly used to produce
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide>chlorine dioxide for
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach>bleaching
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_pulp>paper pulp, but is also used
as a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbicide>herbicide and to prepare
other <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorate>chlorates. " [like
roundup and yes, agent orange, agent white etc]
It is synthesized from the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis>electrolysis of hot sodium
chloride solution in a mixed electrode tank.
Sodium *chlorite* NaClO2 is derived indirectly from
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chlorate>sodium chlorate, NaClO3.
First, the explosively unstable gas
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide>chlorine dioxide, ClO2
is produced by reducing sodium chlorate in a strong acid solution with
a suitable reducing agent (for example, sodium chloride, sulfur
dioxide, or hydrochloric acid). The
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide>chlorine dioxide is
then absorbed into an alkaline solution and reduced with
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide>hydrogen peroxide,
H2O2 yielding sodium chlorite.
Chlorine dioxide is a
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound>chemical compound with
the formula ClO2. This greenish-yellow
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas>gas crystallizes as orange crystals
at 59 °C.
That is wrong. It boils at 9.9 C and melts at -59.5 C. At room
temperature it is a gas.
As one of several <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxide>oxides of
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine>chlorine, it is a potent and
useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment and in bleaching.
That is correct.
A number of products are marketed as "stabilized chlorine dioxide"
(SCD). These are not actually solutions of chlorine dioxide but
solutions of buffered *sodium chlorite*. A weak acid [like vinegar]
can be added to SCD to "activate" it and make chlorine dioxide in-situ
without a chlorine dioxide generator. The use of SCD is effective when
the demand for chlorine dioxide is low and when impurities, such as
small amounts of chlorine, can be tolerated.
That is correct.
Stabilized chlorine dioxide can also be used in an oral rinse to treat
oral disease and malodor.
It is reported to be in some commercial mouth rinses, with FDA approval,
although I was unable to find any at Kroger over the weekend.
## It is, however, mildly toxic..but then, so is beer. What does
"mildly" mean? [That could be important ]
In comparison:
Malaria is not mild by any means.
I believe the toxicity is possibly caused by the replacement of oxygen
in the red blood cells by ClO2, sort of like carbon monoxide does. But
the 1 ppm therapeutic level if far below what would be required for that
to be a problem. The book warns against herx toxcidity though. Similar
to CS in that respect, but seemingly much worse with low dosages as it
appears to be much faster acting.
Marshall
If the FTC looks at MMS and finds SCD, they just might decide to not
pick nits. The relationship is right behind an unlocked door with a
big PDF knob on it that sez "Open me".
If they look at "Stabilized Oxygen" [Vitamin O ] and find salt water
behind an ad copy vault? Could be more than just nits.
Ode
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