At this time I don't know if I'm allowed to pass on info from another group or 
products that will help and even cure.  Please contact me at eddo...@kiski.net 
and I'll be happy to pass on some of the best info to help your friends dogs. 
This is not only for pets but people also use it too. If I'm allowed to pass on 
the product and the other group with permission I'll be happy to post them to 
the group.  Donna