I tried to post this yesterday in answer to a number of posts
specifically addressed at me. I don't know if it got lost or
blocked, but since reading Mike's post about 'niceness' (which I
found quite disappointing) I've edited it to remove references that
may be seen as insulting. I'm trying to post it again.
On 05/06/2008, at 12:30 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
Nenah offers Masura Emoto as a high authority. By his own admission
Emoto "undertook extensive research of water around the planet not
so much as a scientific researcher (because he isn't one) but more
from the perspective of an ORIGINAL THINKER". Folks, please think
carefully about what that really means while you read more of his
dubious qualifications and theories. His 'water crystal'
photographs prove nothing other than he's a talented photographer.
Everyone knows that all snow flakes are different, so its pretty
obvious that ice crystals of pure clear water are going to be
'prettier' than crystals of dirty brown water, especially when
carefully selected and interpreted via Emoto's perspective of
'original thinking'. No-one but Emoto and his followers believes
that these photos prove water can be 'imprinted', let alone that we
can decode the meaning of these (non existent) imprints. And this
guy is held up as one of the guru's in the field!
#### + Masaru Emoto www.hado.net (imprinting of water shown in
photographs)
By the way, 'Dr' Emotos Alternative Medicine qualification comes
from here... http://www.altmeduniversity.com/
#### (Nenah) David, people in the US are light years behind other
countries...
Yep, some are certainly still stuck in the dark ages. Although
amazingly the one's most hooked by these new superstitions often
see themselves as the most enlightened.
#### (Nenah) Jacques Benveniste www.digibio.com (a
conventionally trained scientist whose experiments taught him, much
to his surprise, that water is indeed capable of being imprinted)
+ Masaru Emoto www.hado.net (imprinting of water shown in
photographs)
+ anything by Glen Rein et al. (how our thoughts and coherent
heart energy affect DNA, for starters -- Google Rein and Heart Math)
+ materials by others, lower half of page www.item-bioenergy.com/
infocenter/index.html
+ Lynne McTaggart: The Field (an excellent book summarizing the
work of various physicists and scientists, including the late
Benveniste)
+ James Oschman: Energy Medicine (another excellent book, highly
respected, on the biology, anatomy and physiology of energy medicine)
+ Thompkins and Bird: The Secret Life of Plants (a classic book,
well-written and still far ahead of its time, on various scientists
in the field of energetics)
+ Nenah Sylver: Healing with Electromedicine and Sound Therapies,
parts 1 and 2 (Townsend Letter, February-March and April-May 2008)
(Nenah) The sources cited above speak for themselves.
They sure do and i hope the the readers will examine them FOR
THEMSELVES.
####(Nenah) I thought this group was for learning. If someone has a
different opinion from you, can you accept that without trying to
make others inferior to you? Also, if you need to condemn or mock
other people, what does that say about you?
It appears that the only learning you want to allow is the learning
that agrees with you. Can't I 'learn people' something different?
And I'm not trying to mock you. I'm just pointing out what I think
of the idea of 'water memory', and the sources you quote.
#### (Shep) As if David or anyone has any idea what reality is.
Please explain gravity if you're the master of reality,or why a
refrigerator magnet can cling endlessly without any power source.
Shep, I don't have to 'explain' or understand gravity or magnetism
in order to know they exist. It's 'bleedin obvious' they exist and
if I didn't accept it I would soon be dead. Nenah however is asking
you to believe, and presumably change your lifestyle to
accommodate, something that can neither be observed or measured by
humans or instruments.
#### (Shep) While your at it please explain time for us? Has any of
us ever seen an atom? If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a
smurf...by now, well supposedly...
I don't really understand your train of thought there, but theres
no comparison between 'water memory' and CS because there is a ton
of credible, measurable, repeatable research that proves silver
kills germs. Theres no 'act of faith' required other than hoping it
can do in a human body what it can demonstrably do in a petri dish.
Here's over 100 papers that prove that silver kills germs... http://
robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1.htm
#### (Shep) David wasn't being disrespectful, as much as, just
being closed minded. When you look out of the box, you see a lonely
simplicity.
You're kinda right about that Shep. I will not 'open' my mind to
superstitions.
#### (Marshall) Of interest is the change in the spectrum for water
exposed to "Reiki", and water "prayed" over by my son and wife.
Marshall. Many of yours posts are enjoyable, informative and
credible. But if you believe that water can be changed by praying
over it then I doubt we will ever agree on this. I think you are
always going to see in your experiments what you want to see. I
agree of course that water can be momentarily (very briefly) be
affected by magnetism or static electricity, but thats totally
different from suggesting water can be permanently structured or
imprinted.
regards
David
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