Yay, Malcolm! "Unspun", indeed... -- indi
Intelligence is clearly no barrier to brainwash. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:09:54AM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 08:04 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > " Unspun " allows for differing points of view to expand the > > possibilities, vs limiting vision with the belief that you are right > > because you believe every one else is wrong...and that, because no other > > point of view was tested. > > Quit assigning Points Of View to YOUR "imagined others" implicitely. > Who IS "you" above?? obviously a straw-man envisioned to bolster your > (Ode's) "unrestrained reason" Point Of View. > > Similarly, for your ridiculous examples below. > > > ..takes a touch of schizophrenia? > > Tunnel vision will do, and is less pejorative an Ad-Hominem argument. > > > > Examples of unspinning: > > Rather, Re-spinning. > > > > There are those that cleave to a belief in CS, not on its own merits, but > > merely against the Pharm, condemning those of whom they have no knowledge > > or experience as simply evil. > > And there are illimitably many imagined others - which is not to say > this particular foible doesn't exist in some people - just that it is > Your selection of a ridiculous point of view, chosen by you as the foil > for your "reasons"; i.e., Point of View. > > Unspun: The people IN the Pharm industry are exactly like those OUTSIDE > > the industry...just people. > > Nope, even statistically this point of view is logically questionable. > And in terms of 'logical self-interest', a POV you appear to espouse > with an absolutist's fervor, they are probably - statistically, as a > generalized group, as well as individually - more likely to hold a POV > favorable to the pharmaceuticals they are associated with than is the > general public. > > > > "The doctors are out to kill us" ?? > > Nonsense. They must operate inside a little box placed around them by > > their own patients, in self defense. > > Poor things! > > > > They charge too much !! > > Sure they do, self defense is very expensive..and many are quitting > > because they can't make a living commensurate with the effort it took to > > learn what's in that little box. > > Many DO know much more than that, but can't use it. > > > > The Pharm is just GREEDY...go to the "Alternative" industry. > > But that industry is just as greedy for even less of a reason. > > Greed without all the risk and far fewer middlemen to pay, what a deal. > > Who pays for the defense teams? > > Ah, yes: the good ol' "You're another" or "He did it first" argument; > used to justify anything sleazy. . . > > > > Unspun: > > "Business doesn't pay taxes and all costs are included in the bottom line, > > without which, there is no business" > > " That which people won't buy cannot be sold" > > The consumer has absolute control over both ends of the market. > > Without demand, supply is pointless waste. > > Oh, sure! Many go without food or water for months at a time, bring > those poor little agribusinesses right to their knees, huh? > " "That which people won't buy cannot be sold" " > > You tout that as some overwhelming logic?? Uncontrolled reason?? C'mon > Ode . . . > > > I'm poor because I have no money. > > Try Banking, I hear the government will support you to be professionally > incompetent; i.e., rhetorically devious. > > > Give a poor man money and he'll be poor again in short order and stay that > > way. > > Many a millionaire has gone broke more than once. > > At which point - SURPRISE! - he was poor. QED > > > > ode > > > > > > At 11:20 AM 4/25/2009 -0700, you wrote: > > >Unspun: Except by you?? C'mon, Ode, POV is POV - inescapable: > > >especially by you, an individualist of the first order. > > > > > >On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 09:21 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > > > > > Indi unsubbed last I heard..can't stand the heat of uncontrolled > > > > reason > > > > unspun. > > > > > > > > ode > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:44 PM 4/24/2009 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >WOO,HOO!!!! > > > > >A REAL FOOD FIGHT!!! > > > > > > > > > >BTW, you DO know about the silver Off-Topic list that you should be > > > > >using? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > -- indi
