Info from the semi ignorant ahead: [Do correct as needed]
The ion in ionized water is the OH [-] ion which IS the anion produced
when making Ag [+] silver ions with electricity.
An anion is an ion too.
Ionizing pure water with non reactive platinum electrodes [no metallic
ions]..the Alkaline water is rich in OH[-] aka hydroxyl and the Acid water
on the other side of the ion filter membrane is rich in H3O [+] hydronium ions.
So alkalinized [made basic] and acidified [made acidic ] is both ionized,
but with a different ion. [An acid has more H+ hydrogen for an overall
positive charge and a base, an overall negative charge]
If you use salt, [NaCL ] the hydronium ion combines with the Chloride
ions from the salt to make Hypochlorus acid HOCl and the hydroxl ion OH
[-] combines with the sodium ion to make lye...sodium hydroxide NaOH
[distantly similar to using swimming pool chlorine or formula 409 to clean
out your pipes]
Hypochlorous \Hy`po*chlo"rous\, a. [Pref. hypo- + chlorous.]
(Chem.) Pertaining to, or derived from, chlorine having a valence lower
than in chlorous compounds.
<http://www.dictionary.net/searchbox.php?st=2&query=Hypochlorous%20acid&PHPSESSID=35385c7fbd41d03dea1d7e728cd3a104>Hypochlorous
acid (Chem.), an acid derived from chlorine, not known in a pure state, but
forming various salts, called hypochlorites.
So, putting a few crystals of lye in distilled water would be the same
thing as *that* alkaline water, only a lot easier and cheaper than running
an expensive machine with salt in the water.
Various metallic salts will vary the results by substituting Calcium or
Potassium etc for the Sodium in the hydroxide.
Running such a machine without salt will be very slow but you get nothing
but the OH [-] ion and if the other electrode is silver, you get something
that's actually useful on the other side, Ionic Silver.
Or just run it without the ion filter membrane and make EIS which is both
in the same water...and very oddly, pretty stable with a long shelf life
even though some of the silver ions and hydroxl ions do produce silver
hydroxide.
But silver isn't a 'base' metal, like sodium.
Ode
At 10:34 AM 10/6/2009 -0400, you wrote:
Hmmmm...I guess then I'm confused with ionized and alkalinized.
The Kangen water filters etc., I thought these created ionized water and the
EIS was different. I have a tendency to get wrapped up into the "latest and
greatest" without knowing exactly what's going on. Hence, the confusion and
if I'm getting ionized water with my EIS -- yea! I'll have to go back and
try to understand the alkalinized part.
Thx.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>THE COLORFUL--ionizing water
Hi Lisa,
Good for you for posting your questions. I am confused as to why you
want ionized water. You are making it with your set up- the electrodes
(silver wires) do electrolyze the water. Some have said that to get
alkaline water simply move one of the wires to a different container
of water, so each wires is in it's own jar. One jar will have - ions,
the other will have + ions, at least in theory.
Somebody else have more?
kathryn
On Oct 5, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Lisa wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I'm glad you weren't irritated with me -- I didn't even think that (I
> believe Jim is irritated with ME since I didn't realize you were
> posting
> that article as something that stated untruths).
>
> I'm here to learn, educate myself and keep myself and my family
> healthy,
> protected and safe without all the garbage that both the food
> industry tries
> to shove down our throats AND big pharma in trying to convince us
> that every
> little hiccup in our lives is a disease and they have a pill to fix
> it.
>
> I'm glad that what I have can make us EIS/CS that is safe, effective
> and
> doesn't seem to have an issue with generous amounts when taking it.
>
> Now if I can only figure out how to ionize water cheaply without
> buying a
> machine that costs $1000's !!!
>
> Lisa
>
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