Ode, you wrote:

"At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too
toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is
anywhere close to normal."

What did you mean by this?

Dan

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ode Coyote <odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
>  What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very
> interesting old guy in Florida named Larry?
>
> EIS  Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish
> home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing
> method....mostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged
> particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in
> suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over  20 -30 PPM
>
>  Pure colloids:
> Most 400 PPM is MSP  or Mild Silver Protein....a commercially available
> powder mixed with water....something to stay away from and said to be 1/50th
> as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them
> hiding most of what surface area the particles have.  The protein coating
> disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the
> particles IN the bottle.
>
>  A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by
> chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the "supplements"
> field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might
> be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total.
> Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint
> additives etc.
>
> Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really
> is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret.  Some swear by it, some at
> it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working.
>  A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ]
>
> Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic
> solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be
> made very strong.
>
>  While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no
> biological niche, nor is it a "Heavy Metal" and "normally" is eliminated
> from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the
> tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the
> retained silver "can" cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even
> so, it's not a "health issue" as would be too much copper retention.
>
>  Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth,
> mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high
> enough to be effective would be quite toxic.
>  Silver is an exception.
>
>  A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver
> exposures, but something to bear in mind.
>  At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic
> to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to
> normal.
>
>  The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is
> key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be
> fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be
> deficient.
>  Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly
> common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium
> levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver.
>
> A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized
> by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3
> parts per million did it much faster.
>
> Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters.  The tricky part is
> getting it there for an encounter.
>  Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection.
>  Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come
> out the other end within 28 days.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>> I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for
>> also IE and ppm.  If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it.  I notice
>> that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver.  some as high
>> as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc.  Is the bigger number stronger and
>> better for you?
>> Thanks, Kathy
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley"
>> <mdud...@king-cart.com>
>> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Minimum amount of CS to prevent disease
>>
>>
>>> Richard Goodwin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and
>>>> frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc.,
>>>> assuming you are not trying to get over some disease?
>>>
>>> I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm  EIS for about 7 years, with
>>> nary a cold or flu.  However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over
>>> the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have
>>> discontinued using EIS for prevention, and am taking 5,000 IE of D3 instead,
>>> with similar results, IE no sicknesses with me or my family.  I still will
>>> swig some EIS if I get food poisoning, or feel something coming on (which
>>> has not happened yet after switching to the D3).  Also for standbys if I
>>> ever do seem to be getting something are olive leaf extract, oreganol, Del
>>> Immune V, MMS, and Vitamin C.
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
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