> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:09:38 -0500
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>do you have this?
> 
> Your logic is flawed. It is like saying that because mud has dirt in 
> it, it has no water. Typical silver generators generate both ionic and 
> colloidal silver, normally about 80 to 90 % ionic, and 10 to 20 % 
> colloidal. 
-PART 1: My logic may well be flawed, I'm no scientist nor do I possess any 
qualifications, but, could you explain why one of my clear samples returned an 
ion/particle ratio much closer to 50/50?  Keeping in mind that my visual 
observation is to determine any settlement, and if there being none observable, 
and TE is faint, then I make the assumption that the solution contains higher 
particulate content whilst those particles which ARE present fall well within 
the accepted size range.
 
That you can see the colloidal portion with a laser does not 
> mean there is no ionic. The test for ionic is just as simple and 
> reliable, what we call the salt test ( an a meter also ONLY tests the 
> ionic portion ). Using the salt test along with a laser pointer will 
> prove that normal EIS contains both ionic and colloidal silver.
-Yep, I'm aware that it doesn't mean there is no ionic component.

> BTW the strength of the light showing up with a laser has much much less 
> to do with the particle concentration than the particle size. 1/4 the 
> particles of twice the size will show up as 4 times as bright.
-To my knowledge it does both, but as I said earlier, I keep a close eye on any 
settlement, or mud, which may form on the bottom of my containers after 
days/weeks or months in storage...if there is none observable I consider that 
solution to be pretty good, everything is remaining suspended in the water 
which indicates any particulate content, or particle clusters, are within  
acceptable size ranges.  Also to my knowledge, there may well be the minutest 
silver particles present, but there will also be larger ones present in that 
same solution.  Also keep in mind that I'm referring to EIS/CS production in 
the kitchen and not in a laboratory under environmental controlled conditions 
using particular EIS/CS production equipment/methods and practices.
 
Continued...
 
N.
 

> Marshall
> 
> Neville Munn wrote:
> > [...“colloidal silver” generators sold for home use produce ionic 
> > silver solutions]
> > -Not what my analysis report shows, (ignoring particle size, so long 
> > as they remain below the accepted size determined by some published 
> > material to be classed as 'colloids', and visual observation can 
> > determine that...in the kitchen).
> > 
> > Get some of a given solution analysed the day after production, then 
> > get the rest of that solution analysed a fortnight later and see what 
> > the difference is.
> > 
> > Failing laboratory analysis (and I've had several samples of my 'home 
> > made' concoctions analysed)...visual observation is my best method in 
> > assessing 'quality' product, and that includes the age old laser 
> > pointer for determining particulate content using the 'strength' of 
> > that cone shaped light beam as a guide, and a meter tells me when the 
> > solution has setted down or 'stabilized' and readings remain fairly 
> > constant.
> > 
> > 'Experts...?'...Everyone's an expert <g>
> > 
> > N.
> > 
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> > From: blacksa...@comcast.net
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:48:46 -0500
> > Subject: CS>do you have this?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > 
> >
> > I’ve been asked by a couple people to describe what is EIS / Colloidal 
> > silver. In my attempt to answer (and do so intelligently) I’m falling 
> > significantly short because I can’t seem to find the email that I 
> > remember reading that so eloquently described the difference(s) 
> > between making it at home vs. what you can buy in the store (and the 
> > dangers of that) and event he comments on Mercola’s guidelines of 
> > purchasing silver products ( 
> > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/02/05/new-guidelines-released-for-safe-usage-of-colloidal-silver-supplements.aspx
> >  
> > )
> >
> > 
> >
> > For instance…commenting on:
> > “Please be aware that most all “colloidal silver” generators sold for 
> > home use produce ionic silver solutions, and not true colloidal silver.”
> >
> > 
> >
> > Is someone more organized than I in which I can send these people some 
> > succinct, honest, detailed and truthful information – find the 
> > email(s) that were posted before?
> >
> > 
> >
> > I thank you in advance…
> >
> > 
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > 
> >
> > P.S. A lot of the “scientific” discussion regarding ions and stuff 
> > like that have at times been way over my head – but I’d like to send 
> > them something. I do have the “Beginner’s” list of how to use it…but 
> > would appreciate the “why” etc.
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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