Nicely put Marshall!!! On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 12:16 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote: > Yes you are correct. That is like testing if oils (carbon and hydrogen > compounds) are poisonous by testing hydrogen cyanide ( HCN ) and using > the nitrogen in the air at the control. Complete obsfuscation. > > Marshall > > Mike Monett wrote: > > ==
> > >> conclusions? Here is the link again: > > > > >>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is- > > >>> potent-neurotoxicant > > > > > > "or varying concentrations of AgNO3 in water. As a control for any > > effect of NO3, we included controls containing NaNO3" > > > > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2009/0901149/0901149.pdf > > > > The use of sodium nitrate (NaNO3) as a control is highly misleading. > > Silver Nitrate and Sodium Nitrate are completely different > > substances. > > > > Sodium Nitrate is a preservative, used in sausages for example. You > > can eat it without too much harm. > > > > Silver nitrate is highly corrosive and will destroy most living > > things. You cannot eat it. The lethal dose is only 2 gms. Here is > > the MSDS sheet: > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Material Safety Data Sheet > > > > Silver Nitrate > > > > EMERGENCY OVERVIEW > > > > Appearance: colorless or white. Danger! Strong oxidizer. Contact > > with other material may cause a fire. May cause cyanosis (bluish > > discoloration of skin due to deficient oxygenation of the blood). > > > > May cause liver and kidney damage. Corrosive. Causes eye and skin > > burns. May cause severe respiratory tract irritation with possible > > burns. May cause severe digestive tract irritation with possible > > burns. > > > > Target Organs: Blood, kidneys, liver. > > > > Potential Health Effects > > > > Eye: Causes eye burns. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal > > damage. > > > > Skin: Causes skin burns. May cause skin rash (in milder cases), and > > cold and clammy skin with cyanosis or pale color. > > > > Ingestion: May cause severe and permanent damage to the digestive > > tract. Causes gastrointestinal tract burns. May cause perforation of > > the digestive tract. May cause systemic effects. Lethal dose for > > humans is 2 grams. > > > > Inhalation: Causes severe irritation of upper respiratory tract with > > coughing, burns, breathing difficulty, and possible coma. Causes > > chemical burns to the respiratory tract. Aspiration may lead to > > pulmonary edema. May cause systemic effects. > > > > Chronic: May cause methemoglobinemia, which is characterized by > > chocolate-brown colored blood, headache, weakness, dizziness, breath > > shortness, cyanosis (bluish skin due to deficient oxygenation of > > blood), rapid heart rate, unconsciousness and possible death. > > > > Effects may be delayed. Chronic inhalation or ingestion may cause > > argyria characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eyes, skin > > and mucous membrances. Chronic skin contact may cause permanent > > discoloration of the skin. > > > > Section 4 - First Aid Measures > > > > Eyes: Get medical aid immediately. Do NOT allow victim to rub or > > keep eyes closed. Extensive irrigation with water is required (at > > least 30 minutes). > > > > Skin: Get medical aid immediately. Immediately flush skin with > > plenty of soap and water for at least 15 minutes while removing > > contaminated clothing and shoes. Wash clothing before reuse. Destroy > > contaminated shoes. > > > > Ingestion: Do NOT induce vomiting. If victim is conscious and alert, > > give 2-4 cupfuls of milk or water. Never give anything by mouth to > > an unconscious person. Get medical aid immediately. > > > > Notes to Physician: Treat symptomatically and supportively. > > > > Section 313 This material contains Nitric Acid, Silver(1+) Salt > > (listed as ** undefined **), 100%, (CAS# 7761-88-8) which is subject > > to the reporting requirements of Section 313 of SARA Title III and > > 40 CFR Part 373. > > > > http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/AgNO3.htm > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > It is not surprising that any study using silver nitrate as the > > source of silver ions will conclude that silver is harmful. But this > > is a false conclusion. > > > > Silver ions by themself are non-toxic to humans and have tremendous > > healing effects. However, like most substances, silver combined with > > other substances can have effects that range from benign to lethal. > > > > This is often used to persuade people that silver ions are harmful, > > and should be banned. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > == > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >