Nicely put Marshall!!!

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 12:16 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Yes you are correct. That is like testing if oils (carbon and hydrogen 
> compounds) are poisonous by testing hydrogen cyanide ( HCN ) and using 
> the nitrogen in the air at the control.  Complete obsfuscation.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Mike Monett wrote:
> > ==

> >   >> conclusions? Here is the link again:
> >
> >   >>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-
> >   >>> potent-neurotoxicant
> >
> >
> >   "or varying  concentrations of AgNO3 in water. As a control  for any
> >   effect of NO3, we included controls containing NaNO3"
> >
> >   http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2009/0901149/0901149.pdf
> >
> >   The use of sodium nitrate (NaNO3) as a control is highly misleading.
> >   Silver Nitrate   and   Sodium   Nitrate   are   completely different
> >   substances.
> >
> >   Sodium Nitrate is a preservative, used in sausages for  example. You
> >   can eat it without too much harm.
> >
> >   Silver nitrate  is  highly corrosive and  will  destroy  most living
> >   things. You  cannot eat it. The lethal dose is only 2  gms.  Here is
> >   the MSDS sheet:
> >
> >   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >   Material Safety Data Sheet
> >
> >   Silver Nitrate
> >
> >   EMERGENCY OVERVIEW
> >
> >   Appearance: colorless  or  white. Danger!  Strong  oxidizer. Contact
> >   with other  material  may cause a fire. May  cause  cyanosis (bluish
> >   discoloration of skin due to deficient oxygenation of the blood).
> >
> >   May cause  liver and kidney damage. Corrosive. Causes  eye  and skin
> >   burns. May  cause severe respiratory tract irritation  with possible
> >   burns. May  cause  severe digestive tract  irritation  with possible
> >   burns.
> >
> >   Target Organs: Blood, kidneys, liver.
> >
> >   Potential Health Effects
> >
> >   Eye: Causes eye burns. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal
> >   damage.
> >
> >   Skin: Causes skin burns. May cause skin rash (in milder  cases), and
> >   cold and clammy skin with cyanosis or pale color.
> >
> >   Ingestion: May  cause severe and permanent damage  to  the digestive
> >   tract. Causes gastrointestinal tract burns. May cause perforation of
> >   the digestive  tract.  May cause systemic effects.  Lethal  dose for
> >   humans is 2 grams.
> >
> >   Inhalation: Causes severe irritation of upper respiratory tract with
> >   coughing, burns,  breathing  difficulty, and  possible  coma. Causes
> >   chemical burns  to  the respiratory tract.  Aspiration  may  lead to
> >   pulmonary edema. May cause systemic effects.
> >
> >   Chronic: May  cause  methemoglobinemia,  which  is  characterized by
> >   chocolate-brown colored blood, headache, weakness, dizziness, breath
> >   shortness, cyanosis  (bluish  skin due to  deficient  oxygenation of
> >   blood), rapid heart rate, unconsciousness and possible death.
> >
> >   Effects may  be delayed. Chronic inhalation or  ingestion  may cause
> >   argyria characterized  by blue-gray discoloration of the  eyes, skin
> >   and mucous  membrances.  Chronic skin  contact  may  cause permanent
> >   discoloration of the skin.
> >
> >   Section 4 - First Aid Measures
> >
> >   Eyes: Get  medical  aid immediately. Do NOT allow victim  to  rub or
> >   keep eyes  closed. Extensive irrigation with water  is  required (at
> >   least 30 minutes).
> >
> >   Skin: Get  medical  aid  immediately.  Immediately  flush  skin with
> >   plenty of  soap  and water for at least  15  minutes  while removing
> >   contaminated clothing and shoes. Wash clothing before reuse. Destroy
> >   contaminated shoes.
> >
> >   Ingestion: Do NOT induce vomiting. If victim is conscious and alert,
> >   give 2-4  cupfuls of milk or water. Never give anything by  mouth to
> >   an unconscious person. Get medical aid immediately.
> >
> >   Notes to Physician: Treat symptomatically and supportively.
> >
> >   Section 313  This  material contains  Nitric  Acid,  Silver(1+) Salt
> >   (listed as ** undefined **), 100%, (CAS# 7761-88-8) which is subject
> >   to the  reporting requirements of Section 313 of SARA Title  III and
> >   40 CFR Part 373.
> >
> >   http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/AgNO3.htm
> >   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >   It is  not  surprising that any study using  silver  nitrate  as the
> >   source of silver ions will conclude that silver is harmful. But this
> >   is a false conclusion.
> >
> >   Silver ions by themself are non-toxic to humans and  have tremendous
> >   healing effects. However, like most substances, silver combined with
> >   other substances can have effects that range from benign to lethal.
> >
> >   This is often used to persuade people that silver ions  are harmful,
> >   and should be banned.
> >
> >   Regards,
> >
> >   Mike
> > ==
> >
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