Hello Steve,
I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me...
Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in
the
body through daily use. You also indicate that you don't think that a
large
dose of EIS is effective.
As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand. It
would
seem that if your body was "invaded" by a bunch of "bad guys" they would
overwhelm the "good guys" in your body, and an influx of a large "good
guy"
army would help win the war.
I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the "bad
guys"
to a concentration of the EIS?
I am probably missing a lot, but any "big picture" concepts would be
greatly
appreciated.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norton, Steve" <stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
Sunny,
On the face of it, this would seem to be an easy question to answer but it
is not. If I was asked that by someone my question back to them would be
how
long and how often do you intend to use it and what ppm is your CS? And
what
type of CS are you using? If they are using silver nitrate or a mild
silver
protein (MSP), I would advise them to not use any. If they are using what
we
call EIS, made by running a current between 2 silver electrodes in
distilled
water or a colloidal silver (CS) consisting of small silver particles
suspended in water, I would give the following answer.
BTW, this is only my opinion and others may have different opinions. Much
of
my reasoning is based on my interpretation of the Altman Silver Excretion
Study and my understanding of how silver is excreted from the body. There
is
no universal agreement in these areas, esp. in the interpretation of the
Altman Silver Excretion Study.
If you use it infrequently and for short periods you can take large
quantities of either. But EIS is inherently more tolerant of excess
silver.
If it is short enough and infrequent enough it is almost a don't care. But
there is no therapeutic value in taking large amounts in my opinion.
If the person is going to take it daily for the rest of their life, I
would
recommend limiting it to 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS daily, or less. If the EIS
is
a higher or lower ppm, they should change the amount taken to account for
the difference in ppm. For CS they should follow the manufactures
recommendations but take no more than the amount you would use for EIS of
the same ppm. For either EIS or CS, holding the silver in the mouth for 5
to
15 minutes before swallowing allows as much as 10% of the ionic silver to
be
absorbed through the mucosal tissues and those ions are the most
effective.
If someone wants to use more than 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS per day, I would
recommend that the additional amounts only be held in the mouth for 10 to
15
minutes and then spit out the silver and not swallow it. [1] In my
opinion,
you should follow these recommendations for infrequent, short term use as
well. I am not convinced that taking large amounts of CS or EIS even for a
short periods is more effective than these lesser amounts, esp. when using
EIS. There may possibly be some additional benefit to taking more CS,
because the silver particles in CS may not be as effective as ionic
silver,
and perhaps that can be partially overcome by use of more CS. But again,
the
amount must always be within reason.
The amounts I recommend for long term daily use equates to around 1 mg of
silver per day and is the amount of ionic silver that the liver can
process
in a day. This ensures that there is no significant backlog of silver
waiting to be eliminated from the body. EIS is somewhat unique in that
excess amounts of EIS will also be eliminated through the kidney. To my
knowledge, no other ionic silver has this property. This characteristic of
EIS makes it very tolerant of taking too much EIS and makes it safer to
take
and not get argyria. But even EIS has limits. The one person I know of
that
got argyria from using EIS was taking daily amounts of EIS that were
equivalent to over 10 times the amount I recommended above and even then
it
took 8 years for the argyria to appear. That person was taking amounts of
silver that significantly exceeded the excretion capacity of both the
liver
and the kidney.
[Note 1] Just for this list, I would also suggest that if one needs to
use
amounts of EIS in excess of 1 mg per day, that an effective method of
doing
so would be to take the first 1 mg as EIS and additional amounts of EIS
should be taken with Gatorade or a citrus drink so that the additional
ionic
silver is silver citrate. Taking the Gatorade version would need to be
offset in time from the EIS only to prevent conversion of the EIS only to
silver citrate. This would increase the total ppm of ionic silver in the
blood to higher levels than I believe can be achieved with EIS alone.
- Steve N
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny [mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? Agyria
Hey, I posted on facebook about CS and someone mentioned the 'blue' thing.
I
have so many postings here, can't find it.. can anyone quickly answer
this... HOW MUCH is TOO MUCH?
thanks
sunny x
From: John E. Stevens <jonellis.steven...@gmail.com>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails?
If it's ablue moon, too much colloidal silver water or contaminated
colloidal silver salts may be being ingested.
John
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kathy Tankersley <tanke...@iland.net>
wrote:
Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a
'moon'
on them when he increased his CS consumption. Can someone on this list
tell
me what this looks like? Thanks Kathy
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