Brooks has already answered Doug's question, but Thomas Levy's comment that "liposome encapsulated vitamin C, taken orally, was roughly 10 times more effectively clinically in resolving infectious diseases than the IVC." remains as a question. Thomas Levy does not state it as a verified fact but as an observation based on his experiences with both liposome encapsulated vitamin C and intravenous Vitamin C. I have not seen any basis for the comment provided but my guess as to why this may be is that it is stateded that liposome encapsulated Vitamin C is released for use throughout the body as the liposomal material is metabolized by the cells requiring repair. This could deliver Vitamin C directly to infected cells, perhaps more effectively than intravenous Vitamin C would.
As an aside, here is info on why you should use sodium ascorbate: http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7590 "From Les Nachman, VP of Research and Development at LivOn Labs: Dear Owen, Thank you for your inquiry regarding ascorbic acid and our use of sodium ascorbate in the Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C. You're quite right, gastric juices have no effect on properly liposomed molecules regardless of chemical composition. The problem with using plain ascorbic acid resides in the blood, not the stomach. Large doses of pure ascorbic acid in the blood can induce acidosis, an increased hydrogen ion concentration in the blood plasma. This increased acidity condition can result in a plethora of highly dangerous conditions such as diabetic ketoacidosis , respiratory acidosis, metabolic acidosis, renal tubular acidosis, anion gap acidosis, cellular acidosis, and the list goes on. Virtually all of these conditions, if not treated, can lead to death. This is why no medical professional uses straight ascorbic acid when giving an IV-Vitamin C infusion. When taken orally, ascorbic acid in small amounts can be tolerated in most cases. Although diabetics and folks with kidney problems should not take straight ascorbic acid. Which leads us to our product and the answer to your question. Many of our customers are accustomed to taking multiple gram doses at one time, several times a day. On several occasions, I myself have taken 30 grams in one day. Sodium ascorbate is proven safe at 10 times 30 grams and even more in a 24 hour period, and so we use it with confidence in the Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C. Best regards, Les Nachman" - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Encapsulation Technique Hi Polo Maybe the 10x more effective than intravenous claim and logic comes from here---->>> Note the email address at bottom for follow-up straight from horse's mouth---->>> http://drbloem.com/2009/05/15/liposomal-vitamin-c-qa-q-i-would-be-c/ I am a paid consultant to LivOn Labs, becoming so only after I became impressed with their products. For the better part of two years, I actually ignored my own medical observations, since they were in complete conflict with what I felt just had to be true. Also, until the past nine months or so, I had not bothered to educate myself extensively on the body of liposome science that has been accumulating for the past 45 years or so. In a nutshell, I found that liposome encapsulated vitamin C, taken orally, was roughly 10 times more effectively clinically in resolving infectious diseases than the IVC. Having given thousands of IVCs and taken hundreds myself, this was difficult to comprehend, even though the clinical observation was quite straightforward. I subsequently realized that the liposome gave the ultimate bioavailability: intracellular delivery, including the mitochondria, endoplasmic reticulum, and even the nucleus. Furthermore, it was delivered in a non-energy-consuming fashion. IV vitamin C requires an expenditure of energy to eventually reach the intracellular compartment, but liposome encapsulated vitamin C does not. If possible, you do not want to consume energy to get energy-carrying substances inside the cell. It defeats the basic purpose. But let me clear, if it is possible, give a patient both IVC and oral liposome encapsulated vitamin C. However, if only one is available, the best application is with liposomes orally. Furthermore, liposome encapsulated glutathione is even more spectacular. IV GSH is broken down into its three amino acids within a minute or two of entering the blood. Subsequently three energy-consuming active uptake mechanisms are needed to get those precursors inside the cell, and then two molecules of ATP are used by the enzymes needed to resynthesize the GSH molecule intracellularly. Lipo GSH consumes no energy to deliver its contents intracellularly. Lipo C and lipo GSH are a spectacular combination for all diseases, due to the prooxidant nature of the associated symptoms, and they are especially impressive for infectious diseases. As an aside, I am quite sure that a few packets of each would resolve the swine flu in a day or two at the most. Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD telev...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
