There's a difference between a treaty and a "trade agreement".
When parties in an agreement disagree, it's gone.

. WTO members do not have to be full sovereign nation-members. Instead, they must be a customs territory with full autonomy in the conduct of their ***external*** #commercial# relations. It has zero influence beyond what goes on at borders concerning import/export and has no "authority" even there. It's a system of mere voluntary guidelines...policies...' agreed upon ' in a meeting of the members...it's not even a "law"

NAFTA only worked going South out of Canada for a looong time and only recently did they decide to follow the rules on their end to some degree.
The ONLY thing the USA could do about that is abandon the agreement.

The WTO has no international legal teeth ..and besides that, even treaties are bent and broken all the time. It comes down to "make me" and ....Oh Never Mind, can't do it, no tools in the box and just not worth the effort if somebody decides not to follow the guidelines. There is no enforcement arm and the WTO has absolutely nothing to do with internal domestic trade.

All they can do is have a meeting and yell at each other.
The Trilateral Commission doesn't "rule" anything either, nor do the Burgerbuilders.
"Influence" ?   YES, to some degree.

Bush put up the steel tariffs, and all the steel industry loved it? But
the WTO ruled against it and - guess what?
The WTO is over in Europe, but George Bush had to withdraw the tariffs?

No, he didn't "had to" do anything...and even the sanctions are voluntarily implemented by the members, but no "power" other than bluff and bluster. More recently it was Tire Tariffs with China, like.... you guys do that and we'll stop sending you cupie dolls. [except for the 5 million we let get snuck though to keep our doll factories in bizness]
 The members don't even follow their OWN rules.

Pass 17 resolutions and DO nothing ?

So, unless this Admin decides to adopt CODEX as a DOMESTIC LAW, it can't affect anything made here...and then, it's not the WTO, it's the Obamanation at work.

You probably also believe that the PTA lords over  the Dept of Education ?
On the other hand, it DOES seem like the town drunks are setting the price of whine in this country.
Drop that price or we'll stop drinking! [sanctions]

Ode






t 10:25 AM 7/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:


I messed up my previous cut and paste so here is a revised version that
should be correct. In spite of Annie's posts on the Codex Alimentarius I
kinda thought "What's that to me?". But apparently it may be imposed on
us by the WTO and our access to natural supplements could be severely
restricted. Thanks for the warning Annie.

 - Steve N


Some excerpts from:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_censoredhealthsecrets.htm

Dr. Wright: We're gaining ground, and so what's being tried is a stealth
attack, and you'll read about that if you care to in previous editions
of my newsletter.



Unfortunately, the folks that wrote our Constitution here in the United
States put a little clause in there that has allowed the last two or
three administrations, that is several administrations, to do things to
us through the back door without the approval of Congress. It says
somewhere in the Constitution (and I'm serious, go read it, I just about
fell over when I read it) that if we enter into a treaty, then that
treaty shall override our United States Constitution.

Were you aware of that?

Mike: I was not.

Dr. Wright: It is in there. I kid you not.

Mike: So how do they use this to suppress nutritional medicine?

Dr. Wright: Real easy! You know that thing called the World Trade
Organization? Well, the WTO apparently gets to make so-called "trade
rules," and if the various countries don't pay attention to them they
get to do this thing called "sanctions." Remember when good-old George
Bush put up the steel tariffs, and all the steel industry loved it? But
the WTO ruled against it and - guess what?

The WTO is over in Europe, but George Bush had to withdraw the tariffs?
And I'm thinking, excuse me? The president of the United States has to
bow down to the WTO? Not that I think that the presidency of the United
States has been run all that wonderfully well the last few years, but
still. That was the case. Because they were threatening these sanctions
which would have damaged the country economically.

Alright, well, as you know, there's this outfit over in Europe called
Codex Alimentarius or whatever it's called, and a lot of the folks who
attend their meetings are from the big European pharmaceutical cartel,
which is just about the same as the American patent medicine cartel
these days.

And they put together this directive which is now called the "European
Food Supplements Directive," and the silly thing is scheduled to go into
effect unless it's overturned in the European Court - and what that
would do is to severely restrict the number and type of vitamins and
minerals and metabolites (such as coenzyme Q10 and L-carnitine and all
that) that would be available.

Oh, by the way, it would apply over here! This is the European Food
Supplements Directive, and it would be enforced by the WTO.

You see, it's a proposed rule to be enforced by the WTO, and if the WTO
gets to enforce it, then if we don't pay any attention to it, if they
elect to do so (which they might or might not, you can never tell) they
could put sanctions against us.

Mike: So when this kicks in, the FDA is going to say well, we have to do
this to comply with world trade rules.

Dr. Wright: Well, they might and they might not. Now one real good
lawyer I know says that's not likely to happen, and another real good
lawyer I know says that you'd better believe they'll do it. So you can't
really tell what they'll do. I'm guessing that they will because they've
been wanting to do that all along.


Mike: So you're informing readers of this and trying to call people to
action on this issue, right?

Dr. Wright: Absolutely. There's a group in England called the Alliance
for Natural Health, that stumped up some money and got a court case
together, in Europe of course, against this European Food Supplements
directive, and wonder of wonders, they won! They won in the British high
court. The trouble is that the British have given up their sovereignty
too, and the British high court is now subordinate to the European high
court.

So of course it was appealed to the European high court. And so what we
put in the newsletter was, here's the name of the place, the Alliance
for Natural Health, here's the address, send them money! Let's send our
money to Europe and get it overturned over there before it comes over
here.


Mike: Because the pharmaceutical cartel on both continents would really
like to see the whole world dependent on synthetic chemicals for
treating health symptoms, right?

Dr. Wright: Yes, they would. I like to call them patent medicines,
because that's what they are. Now, just incidentally, a couple of
things. You are more than welcome to download the article about that
European Food Supplements Directive, from the newsletter site, and put
that as an attachment on any place you have content on the web.

...

Dr. Wright: Now here's the other little detail that may blow some of
your listeners away. I happen to keep handy a copy of the Declaration of
the Constitution, and here we go, Constitution of the United States,
Article 6: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which
shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which
shall be made, under the authority of the United States shall be the
supreme law of the land". I'm going to repeat that-all treaties made or
which shall be made, under the authority of the United States shall be
the supreme law of the land" ... "and the judges in every state shall be
bound thereby, anything in the Constitution notwithstanding!" I think
the founders blew it on that one.




-----Original Message-----
From: AnnieBSmythe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL:CS>USDA and Codex Alimentarius

USDA Announces and Seeks Comments on Standard-Setting Activities of the
Codex Alimentarius Commission
<http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/NR_070110_01/index.asp>
/Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:49:02 -0500/

USDA's Office of Food Safety has published its annual notice on
international standard-setting activities of the Codex Alimentarius
Commission and is inviting comments.



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