I expressed a hypothesis (but got no comments) that ionic silver appears at the positive electrode as individual silver atoms are ionized and freed into solution as electrons are pulled off the exposed silver atoms.
Silver clusters (colloidal silver) appear near the negative electrode, where silver ions are neutralized with electrons, and clump together as neutral particles or plate out as crystals on the electrode. ## Those electrons are attached to the Hydroxyl anion [OH-] and what forms on that electrode is silver hydroxide. The only places a free electron can be picked up to make a "metallic" particle are at the air/water interface of the electrode where electrons are flowing over the surface of the metal and electrolysis isn't occurring, on the gas/water interface of a bubble attached to an electrode [similar to the former statement] and on the surface of the glass where glass is acting as a solar panel collecting electromagnetic radiation and a capacitor. [Much of the metallic silver is likely to be formed ON that surface and create a mirror.] The vast majority of the 'particles' are, therefore, silver hydroxide particles and not metallic silver particles. Those which ARE made will collect on the surface tension of the water surface where thier weight will make a depression in that surface the metallic silver will roll into like a bowl full of atom sized marbles. The metallic silver trapped in the surface tension of bubbles is transferred to the upper surface tension when the bubble rises and pops. I think these ideas could be tested by placing a semipermeable membrane between the electrodes that would pass silver ions, but have too small pore size to pass colloidal particles. Then a laser beam could find out where the visible colloidal particles are concentrated. ## A reverse osmosis filter with electrodes on either side of the membrane is basically what a "water ionizer" is... the purpose is to separate a portion of the water into H3+ [Hydronium / Acid Water ] and OH- hydroxyl /"Alkaline Water" using non reacting electrodes of platinum and DC current. The problem with "water ionizers" is that the process is really slow when using pure water...so they add salt or use tap water. Do that, and the alkaline product is a metallic hydroxide [mostly sodium hydroxide ] and hydrochloric acid. It's a lot cheaper, easier..and faster still to just add a couple of Draino [Lye] crystals to a glass of water. If you use silver electrodes, you get AG+ on one side and OH- on the other. The AG+ rich water has no flavor and will react significantly with hydrogen peroxide. The OH- rich water [Alkaline Water] is bitter and doesn't react with H2O2. An easy way to do all this is to use 2 containers, one electrode in each... connected by a loop of copper wire. and keep the voltage down under 12 volts to limit making colloidal copper in the process. It shouldn't work. But it does and I don't know why. If I checked to see what a meter reads in each, I don't remember the results. The last time I did this was about 10 years ago. Ode On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:44 PM, John Popelish <jpopel...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/16/2015 10:31 PM, Debra & David wrote: > >> Jason said "I can't remember that last time I heard an >> original idea on the silverlist... oh wait, I can! It was >> from David, and the last before that was probably a rehash >> on some ideas pioneered by Brooks Bradley. ... I always get >> the same response. Not even anyone curious about how I >> personally tested this theory or how they can test to see >> the difference in quality. Just three people or so saying >> they have no need to clean the electrodes. " >> > > I expressed a hypothesis (but got no comments) that ionic silver appears > at the positive electrode as individual silver atoms are ionized and freed > into solution as electrons are pulled off the exposed silver atoms. > > Silver clusters (colloidal silver) appear near the negative electrode, > where silver ions are neutralized with electrons, and clump together as > neutral particles or plate out as crystals on the electrode. > > I think these ideas could be tested by placing a semipermeable membrane > between the electrodes that would pass silver ions, but have too small pore > size to pass colloidal particles. Then a laser beam could find out where > the visible colloidal particles are concentrated. > > If this is true, it should be possible to make silver water with high or > low colloidal content, to find out if their biological properties differ. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ > maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > >
