Thank you, Ode.  I read that if I started the process with some eis already 
added it would reduce the time to make it.  Since without that addition it 
takes about 5-6 hours I guess I am good.  I only use distilled water but I did 
recently change the brand.
I have no yellow light.  Only one light that swaps red and green.
Do I need to do anything to the silver rods to remove the whitish 
patina?Thanks.PT 

    On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 07:21:51 AM EDT, Ode Coyote 
<silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 It should take  AT LEAST 6 hours to do a quart or the water isn't good enough. 
Some contaminants in water can kick off reactions with the silver or become 
involved with the silver until it gets used up.If it's doing that, time can 
actually increase as the results aren't conductive and won't contribute to the 
Auto Off triggering...but the water may actually appear grey with a very heavy 
TE. [Tyndall Effect]

TE  is always a variable...it's not a result of what the 'generator' is doing, 
but relates to what is happening AFTER the gen does its thing in the 
environment it's working in. The 'generator' makes ions and nothing BUT 
ions..and you can't see ions at all...and it's the ions that do most of the 
'work' the fastest.
Even with a heavy TE, at least 85% of the silver content is still 
ionic...so..TE isn't much of anything to worry about.The yellow color is due to 
the oxidation of some of the ions. Some water contaminants can kick that 
reaction into play..with no way to tell 'what' is in water. The stronger you 
make the EIS, the more sensitive to stray reactions it becomes.Silver Oxide 
suspended in the water is harmless...unsightly, but harmless.

With the variances in water,"normal' covers a fairly wide piece of territory.
Want something different?...change the water.

Adding not more than 2 or 3 Drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide per Quart to the 
water when the Yellow LED starts blinking and letting  the generator run longer 
will increase the Colloidal [vs Ionic] Content [Do not reset/unplug the 
generator when doing this as you will now be making non conductive colloids 
that meters and the generator cannot detect and it may not ever turn itself off 
...or enter programmed mode. ]

 Even a trace of H2O2 changes EVERYTHNG…let jar completely dry between batches.




Ode


On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:12 AM PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

If I start with some eis already in the jar when I fill it with distilled water 
2-3 hours.  If I start with straight distilled then longer... maybe 5 or 6?  
Your equipment is so reliable I kind of set it and forget it for a bit and 
haven't kept track of times in quite awhile.  
The interesting thing, to me, is that when I dry off the rods now they leave no 
black residue on the paper towel.  They used to leave black marks.  Is there 
anything that needs to be done to them to remove the white patina (sort of) on 
them?
The Tyndall line used to be fine and tight and now it is wider and fuzzy.
Thanks.PT
. 

    On Monday, July 20, 2020, 07:12:49 AM EDT, Ode Coyote 
<silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 How long is it taking to run a 10 PPM batch?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:46 AM PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi, Lately I've noticed that when I clean my rods with a paper towel nothing 
comes off of them.  Also no black speckles in the eis and no light yellow 
color.  Laser shows a wider line and can almost see speckles in the line... not 
the nice tight line I used to get from my silver puppy.
Any ideas how to get things back to normal?Thanks.PT