Wow, don't know which would be worse - that it's from mites or the biogenetics, tho at least you can combat the mites. How would you fight the genetics? How do we save the Monarchs?? What other species will be next? One point came up on another board when we were discussing hybrid seeds and that was that soon all wild plants may cross pollinate and become sterile. Then what? How long can we hold out and keep non-hybrid seed pure/untouched? Can't they see that they are endangering themselves by what they are doing? I don't get it. To get at us, to gain more control, to make more money - they cut off their nose to spite their face. Perhaps they are of the high opinion that they have it all under control. Now there's a laugher.
Barb >I can assure you it is mites. I wish it wern't but it is. You can see them with >your naked eye, and it is a pain to keep them under control. >Marshall bli...@aol.com wrote: > Maybe what is happening with the Monarchs is also what is happening then to a > lot of the Honeybees. They are saying that it is a new type of mite or some > such thing that is supposed to be attacking and killing out the whole hive. > Those who keep bees commercially are supposedly having to spray their hives > to keep their bees safe. But - maybe that's just a smoke screen/fable. > Maybe it's the genetics. > > Barb > > >Another lovely product from Monsanto is its bio-engineered Bt corn, designed > >to kill the European corn borer. When Monarch butterflies eat the pollen > >from Bt corn, 45 percent of them die. > > >Monsanto also makes Aspartame, which they freely admit metabolizes as 10% > >methanol (aka wood alcohol = poison) by volume. > > >Marvelous company. They can't decide whether they want to own the world or > >kill it. > > >Sam > > > > > http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/ladybug.htm > > > > This is an article on ladybugs in Scotland that were dying from eating > aphids > > that had fed on a genetically altered potato crop. > > > > It's just the tip of the iceberg me thinks. > > > > Barb > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Worse yet, Monsanto has inserted a "terminator" gene that prevents > > germination of seeds produced by crops from Monsanto seeds. Thus, farmers > > have to buy new seeds every year. And the pollen from Monsanto terminator > > crops turn other natural crops into terminator-seed producers, thus ending > > the natural cycle of crop and seed and forcing farmers who didn't buy from > > Monsanto to begin doing so. > > > > This is truly an evil system and should be flatly outlawed. > > > > Sam > > > > > I believe there is a difference between using selection to optimize what > > you > > > want, and hybridization, and genetic engineering. IN the first case you > > usually > > > are working for some change in the expression of the already present > > genes, like > > > a color change, flavor change, size, productivity and so forth. > > > > > > In the case of genetic engineering we are seeing the insertion of the > gene > > that > > > produces an insecticide from a bacteria into a crop, so the crop > produces > > > insecticide. Then you find that 10% or so of the people are allergic to > > the > > > insecticide or it may be toxic to everyone. Big difference. > > > > > > Also, Monsanto is inserting marker genes into their crops. Then when > some > > > pollen blows from one farmer's land to another's and the marker shows up > > in some > > > of the seed of the farmer, they are suing him for infringement of their > > patent, > > > even though he is replanting harloom seeds that have been in his family > > from > > > before monsanto. > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > Liz Pavek wrote: > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, all hybrid seed is bioengineered. This means > > corn, > > > > soy, some wheats, and most garden vegetables. When genetics is > > manipulated, > > > > I consider that bioengineering. > > > > > > > > Just my nsho, > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > > > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > Return-Path: <silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com> > > Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) > by > > air-zb02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:21 -0500 > > Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by > > rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v65.4) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:02 -0500 > > Received: (from smart...@localhost) > > by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id KAA17048; > > Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:53 -0800 > > Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:53 -0800 > > Message-ID: <011201bf3a87$20b82c00$92ecf...@emachine> > > From: "Sam Earle" <sear...@prodigy.net> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > > References: <012001bf33d8$5d971c40$51f0f...@oemcomputer> > > <38399485.98537...@execonn.com> > > Subject: Re: CS>Bioengineered foods > > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:31:01 -0500 > > Organization: Prodigy Internet > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > ---- ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com> Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:27:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v65.4) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:27:32 -0500 Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id TAA24781; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:27:28 -0800 Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:27:28 -0800 Message-ID: <38449508.26a9c...@execonn.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:24:56 -0500 From: Marshall Dudley <mdud...@execonn.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Bioengineered foods References: <0.811fa80c.2575e...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZrC283.0.236.VM9Hu"@mx1> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: <silver-list@eskimo.com> archive/latest/16892 X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com
