Be aware that it is very difficult to cure anyone that has a death wish at some
level, which smokers do.  If someone is a smoker I usually don't even try to
help since they will be fighting your effort at some level the whole way.

Marshall

W.T. Shoultz wrote:

> To All Listers:
>    I need some help...actually a co-worker does.  He is 66 yrs. old and has
> had laryngitis (sp?) for about 3-4 wks.  Yesterday after his Dr. visit he
> told me that they found a lump/tumor in his lung and they are about 99 %
> sure it is cancer.  He used to smoke heavily (3-5 packs/day) for at least 20
> yrs.  And to complicate matters he has done a LOT of work with asbestos
> while he was in the Navy.  Even as far as to use a sheet of asbestos
> insulation for a blanket many times.
>       >>>>>>>>>>>  My question is.......
>   Do any of you know if this nebulizer set up would benefit him?  I've told
> him about IP-6 and some of the other 'cancer-killers'.  Having just read
> about this nebulizer and breathing it directly into the lungs made me
> wonder.
>    All comments appreciated.
> Thanx,      W.T.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 2001 TV VCR <x2...@qnet.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>; <kato...@mindspring.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 4:42 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizer Instructions
>
> > Katarina,
> >
> > Thank you for posting the instructions for such
> > a helpful low cost instrument.  Have you (or
> > anyone else out there) heard of other uses for
> > this device (the nebulizer {using an airbrush} )
> > for applying CS to the lungs.
> >
> > How about for chestcolds, coughs, to help the
> > lungs before or after quitting smoking?
> >
> > Bil
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katarina Wittich <kato...@mindspring.com>
> > To: Silver A <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:10 PM
> > Subject: CS>Nebulizer Instructions
> >
> >
> > > Dear List members,
> > > Here are Brooks' complete instructions for making a nebulizer.
> > > In the future we can tell people to do a search for Nebulizer
> instructions
> > > in the archives.
> > > Katarina
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Brooks Bradley <liat...@flash.net>
> > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:45 PM
> > > > Subject: New Experimental CS X Oxygen Protocol For Unresponsive
> > > > Pulmonary Pathogens
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To all interested list members,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to relate an experimental protocol recently developed by
> > > > one of our younger (and brighter) staff members. He originated the
> > > > idea and assembled all parts into a working model in less than two
> > > > days-------after his original inspiration.
> > > >
> > > > The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search
> > > > for some effective procedure for attacking the bi-lateral form of
> > > > those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of
> > > > the anti-biotic protocols.  This challenge has been especially dear
> > > > to our hearts since one of our engineers lost his 47 year old wife (a
> > > > wonderful school teacher), at the age of 47--------nine years ago.
> > > >
> > > > We have used this system on 3 volunteers----and this only----within
> > > > the past four weeks.  However, we have been absolutely astounded by
> > > > the results.
> > > >
> > > > One 75 year old ashma sufferer, unable to gain more than momentary
> > > > relief during the past 8 years, was able to dispense with his very
> > > > labor-intensive (unbelieveably costly) hospice-assisted protocols
> > > > ............ 18 days after undertaking this protocol. We now suspect
> > > > that his ashma was the result of some form of secondary bacterial
> > > > pathogen......this because of the speed and degree of his recovery.
> > > >
> > > > Another of our volunteers (71 years), afflicted with a sub-clinical
> > > > bronchial infection-----non-responsive to any protocol----including
> > > > Rife Beam Ray Therapy, has improved by at least 75% within the past 21
> > > > days.........and shows every indication of complete resolution within
> > > > the next week or so.  This volunteer was in perfect health in every
> > > > other way----except for the bronchial disorder (complicated by a
> > > > minor but persistant post-nasal drainage)
> > > >
> > > > The third volunteer was an 81 year old male, completely
> > > > non-responsive to all therapies for bi-lateral pneumonia of a
> > > > bacterial nature.  This condition had persisted for 6 months and he
> > > > was approaching a moribund state, very rapidly.
> > > >
> > > > 24 hours after beginning this protocol, he encountered a very serious
> > > > crisis evolving from major Herxheimer's Reaction.  Pustule formation
> > > > was so rapid and intense,  100% oxygen support was required----and
> > > > the treatment protocol was suspended for two days, while the
> > > > volunteer's condition was stabilized.
> > > >
> > > > Two days after resumption of the Oxygen-CS  protocol, no supporting
> > > > O2 therapy was required as the subject was fully able to breathe
> > > > adequately unassisted.  The volume of sputum/pus fluid was massive.
> > > >
> > > > Excepting very sore chest area (from prolonged coughing)  the
> > > > volunteer was much improved.  Within five days he became very alert
> > > > and began to overcome his narcoleptic tendencies.  Within ten days he
> > > > became ambulatory again. Within 15 days his lungs were unobstructed
> > > > enough he could breathe fully, with no audio evidence of fluid
> > > > presence in the pulmonary tract.  Yesterday (the 21st day) his lungs
> > > > checked to be 90% clear, with only one tiny spot in the lower left
> > > > quadrant of the left lung.
> > > >
> > > > His M.D. pulmonary specialist is in a state of "schock" over the
> > > > developments.  His analysis is this is the most pronounced case of
> > > > "spontaneous remission" in his 30 years of practice.  No one has
> > > > informed the M.D. of our experimental protocols, used on this
> > > > volunteer.  Our volunteer's immediate family is so irate over the
> > > > fact that his alleopathic pulmonary "team" was totally unable to
> > > > reverse his decline toward immediate life-departure (the crisis
> > > > management team did offer to place him on 100% life support until
> > > > clinical death)  they wanted  to instigate some form of legal action.
> > > >
> > > > We reminded them of their earlier agreement with us, that regardless
> > > > of the outcome of our experimental protocol, "neither the procedural
> > > > result nor the protocol itself, would be broached with the
> > > > volunteer's alleopathic counsel".
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, based upon the anecdotal nature of this one case, there
> > > > is no way to prove efficacy.
> > > >
> > > > THE PROTOCOL:   This consists simply of using a nebulizing system
> > > > constructed from a conventional artist's air-brush assembly, with
> > > > modified pneumatic plumbing facilitating its connection to a
> > > > pressure-regulated pure O2 supply.  The air-brush mechanism was
> > > > chosen because it provides an exeptionally economcal means of
> > > > furnishing a very small particle aerosol fog (4 micron vicinity).
> > > >
> > > > Using a very simple adapter from the air-brush pressure regulator,
> > > > to the O2 supply hose coupling, plus a standard welding system size
> > > > oxygen fitting (female), the assembly is connected directly to the
> > > > Oxygen port outlet from either a small medical-type O2 bottle---or a
> > > > standard welding system O2 bottle outlet (they both contain the same
> > > > purity oxygen).
> > > >
> > > > Using the small fluid-supply bottle which comes in the air-brush kit,
> > > > then filling the supply bottle approximately 3/4ths full (about 1/2
> > > > ounce) of 5 ppm CS, we were ready to start. The O2 system (we used
> > > > two-stage regulators) was SLOWLY set for constant regulation at 35
> > > > psi, at which point the system was ready for use.
> > > >
> > > > We placed the air-brush in the hand of the volunteer, who in turn
> > > > pressed the push-valve button when they wanted to direct the O2/CS
> > > > fog mixture into their mouth-----and inhale directly into the
> > > > pulmonary system. At the end of each inhalation, the volunteer simply
> > > > released pressure on the button and shortly exhaled. This procedure
> > > > was repeated until the entire contents of the air-brush supply bottle
> > > > was below the intake point of the supply-siphon tube (about 50-75
> > > > breaths total). This protocol was employed twice daily (24 hours) for
> > > > the entire duration of these researches.
> > > >
> > > > I will post the bill-of-materials, plus assembly details in another
> > > > post sometime tomorrow.  However, as a word of encouragement for
> > > > those unable to afford the $680.00 for a hospital-type nebulizer,
> > > > the total cost of our assembly, less the oxygen bottle and regulator,
> > > > was less than $20.00. Additionally, our particle size was BETTER from
> > > > the $10.85 Taiwanese bargain air brush than from our $680.00
> > > > hospital-grade nebulizer (at least our measurements indicated so).
> > > >
> > > > I will also, tell you where you can purchase these air-brush kits. We
> > > > have already purchased 20 of them, outfitted them, and given them to
> > > > very needy Experimental Volunteers of a charity nature.
> > > >
> > > > Within the next 8 weeks, we should have some useable "raw" data,
> > > > which  I will attempt to share with interested list members.   Please
> > > > forgive this lengthy post, but my excitement over this exceptionally
> > > > low-cost----and promising protocol, has been keeping me awake
> > > > nights......lately. May you all be well.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Brooks Bradley.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brooks Bradley <liat...@flash.net>
> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 25 April 1999 10:12
> > > Subject: CS>Parts List and Comments on CSXO2 Nebulizing System
> > >
> > >
> > >                 Good Afternoon List Members.
> > >         Following is a list of the components required for enabling
> > > the protocol we used in the experimental researches I outlined last
> > > evening.
> > >         The air-brush kit we used, was obtained from a mail-order
> > > concern specializing in myriad hardware/electrical/hand-tool items.
> > > Their quality is toward the low-end industrial, but quite adequate for
> > > the home/hobby user.  Our machine shop/proto-type builders have used
> > > them for years.  The company is Harbor Freight, located in Camarillo,
> > > California.  They now have outlets in one or two other cities.  We
> > > obtained our air-brush kits from the Fort Worth, Texas store (we are
> > > located in Fort Worth).  The stock number is #6131.  Our purchasing
> > > person informed me this item cost us less than $10.00 each, and the
> > > last 20 purchased cost less than $8.00.  As of last Wednesday, this
> > > store still had some of these units.   Included in the kit are two
> > > liquid -supply bottles (one 1/2  and one 1 oz), one air hose which
> > > couples between the pressure regulator and the air-brush assembly;
> > > one air pressure regulator;  and the air-brush assembly itself.   The
> > > additional parts required are for a hose assembly which facilitates
> > > coupling the input side of the air pressure regulator with the
> > > external oxygen supply used to power the nebulizer.
> > >                 Note:  PURCHASE BRASS FITTINGS ONLY,  oxygen is the
> > > pre-eminent combustion supporter.
> > >                All of these components can be obtained from any
> > > commercial outlet stocking pneumatic system parts.
> > >  This hose assembly includes:
> > >                 One 1/4"  Compression X 1/8" Male NPT fitting  (this
> > > is very important, for without it you cannot connect the O2 hose to
> > > the air-brush pressure regulator)
> > >                  One 1/4" Barb X 1/8" NPTF  Fitting
> > >                  One  1/4" X 9/16 RH Oxygen Fitting  (will have a barb
> > > fitting on one end and the female coupling on the other)
> > >                  Approximately  4 feet of any good !/4   I.D.  200+
> > > PSI  air hose.  Tell the clerk you are going to use oxygen in the
> > > hose.
> > >                   Assemble the parts by screwing the Compression
> > > fitting into the 1/4" Barb X 1/8" Male NPT fitting.  Do not worry,
> > > only one end of the Compression fitting is compatible with the Barb
> > > fitting.  Next, insert the barb end of this fitting assemby into the
> > > air hose.  Push the hose on until it is jam against the shoulder of
> > > the fitting.  Any small, screw or compression-type clamp may be used
> > > to add security to the hose/fitting end.  Next, insert the barb end of
> > > the  Oxygen fitting into the remaining hose end and secure with any
> > > satisfactory clamp.  Your assembly is now complete.   Next, carefully
> > > screw the exposed male end of the Compression fitting into the bottom
> > > of the air-brush pressure regulator.  Now  connect the small-diameter
> > > air-line between the air-brush assembly and the pressure regulator (it
> > > is fool-proof, as there is nowhere else this tiny hose can connect).
> > >                 Select the small fluid-supply bottle and fill
> > > approximately 75-80% of capacity with 5-10 ppm Colloidal Silver and
> > > insert the angled tip assembly into the bottom of the air-brush
> > > assembly.  You are now ready to connect to your O2 supply and operate.
> > >                 Obtain a small medical O2 bottle (anywhere around 1/2
> > > to 1 cubic feet capacity) or any size O2   Arc welding system bottle.
> > > Be sure to have a Two-stage regulator attached to the O2 bottle.  Now,
> > > connect the 9/16" Oxygen-fitting to the O2 outlet from the Two-stage
> > > regulator (also foo-proof, as there is nowhere else to connect).  Now
> > > SLOWLY open the O2 control knob on the O2 regulator and set the inlet
> > > prssure to your nebulizer assembly to a Maximum of 35 Pounds Per
> > > Square Inch (PSI).    Next, screw the AIR-BRUSH air pressure
> > > regulator control knob (the tiny knob on top of the air pressure
> > > regulator) all the way closed..  Now, open the control knob about 2
> > > and one-half turns.   Next, trigger the control botton on the
> > > Air-brush head until you see a fine fog each time you press down on
> > > the
> > > button.  The mist is so fine, you may have to hold it against a dark
> > > back ground to see it.  You are now ready to go.
> > >             Our best results were obtained by the volunteer inserting
> > > the discharge nozzle about 1 inch inside their OPEN  mouth and
> > > breathing deep---an long---on each inhalation;  holding the breath for
> > > a count of 3 or 4 and then executing a complete exhalation.  Ideally,
> > > there should be about 1/4" circular clearance around the air-brush
> > > head (while inside the mouth), as this provides the optimum venturi
> > > action for incorporating air with the O2.  In acute circumstances, the
> > > volunteer can close his/her mouth completely around the nozzle and
> > > breathe 100% O2------works great.
> > >         Remember  NEVER USE PURE OXYGEN NEAR OPEN FLAMES OR
> > > COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS.  To do so would make this protocol quite
> > > irrelevant.
> > >             Good luck to all, and if you have any questions just post
> > > them and I will try to answer.    Sincerely.  Brooks Bradley.     p.s.
> > > Any serviceable air-brush assembly could be used.  However, try to
> > > obtain one that will yield the smallest size particle possible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brooks Bradley <liat...@flash.net>
> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 25 April 1999 11:08
> > > Subject: CS>P.S. To CS X O2 Hardware Assembly Instruction Post
> > >
> > >
> > >             Dear List Members.
> > >             I failed to include a suggestion, which some may find of
> > > critical importance.  If you do not have immediate access to an O2
> > > supply, and encounter an EMERGENCY  experiment, you can connect into
> > > any available air compressor outlet (however, youmay have to change
> > > out the Compressor-side fitting).  To be safe, let the air compressor
> > > charge to 35 psi and disconnect it from the power grid.  There will be
> > > ample air pressure to execute your protocol.  The air-brush will
> > > function quite well to below 20 psi.  Although your air-supply may be
> > > contaminated....the alternative to getting CS into the VOLUNTEER
> > > animal/pet may a much more grave situation,
> > >             We had excellent, but less spectacular results using
> > > compressed air as the driving medium in some animal experiments in
> > > 1998.......when addressing some serious pulmonary compromises
> > > involving felines.
> > >                                 Sincerely.   Brooks Bradley.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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