Hi folks,

Will someone please draw me a picture of a CS particle and its surrounding
water with a "static charge" on the CS,?


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From: rogalt...@aol.com <rogalt...@aol.com>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Producing CS using HVAC Probably Restructures the Water
itisMadein


>In a message dated 00-04-25 10:16:56 EDT, you write:
>
><< I disaggree here, it is quite possible to manufacture a silver colloid
> by precipitating the NO3 from a silver nitrate solution, leaving only
> the silver ions in solution. The fact that the water molecules
> surround the charged silver particles creates the local neutrality you
> mention, at the edge of the water layer.>>
>
>Frankly, I'm baffled by this statement. However, since nitrate ions are not
>present in my model of what is occuring, I prefer not to travel down this
>road.
>
>
>  >> Well, that is getting low and rain water has a deal of other dissolved
> substances also, whereas distilled water has little of these and does
> readily absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. CO2 absorption may be a
> contributing factor, indeed when making pH measurements which are
> lower than expected this is the first place to look.<<
>
>Ivan: I don't think you understood what I was saying. Let me try to make
this
>point another way. Bubble air into distilled water and continue to measure
>the pH until the cows come home and tells us what you get.
>
>>> It is perfectly possible to have a colloid of an insoluble substance.
> Silver itself could not be a colloid if it were soluble. AgO and AgOH
> will swap around depending on the pH of the solution and may have a
> very small particle size, besides which most insoluble substances are
> soluble to some degree.<<
>
>Have you identified these species using SEM, TEM or by x-ray diffraction
>methods. If not, where's the evidence for such compounds?
>
>
>> Yes that's true enough, although I have tried to show that your theory
> of polarised water molecules being the cause of a low pH reading to be
> unlikely.<
>
>Ivan: I don't believe you have even begun to do that.
>
>> I know that free Ag+ ions exist in my CS because I could not read them
> with my ISE if it were otherwise, and I would be happy to test your CS
> for the same, if you foot the bill for postage to New Zealand<g>
>
>If Ag+ ions exist, what are the counter-balancing anions. Static charge on
>colloidal silver particles is one thing, but separate positive or negative
>ions existing without INTIMATE association with ions of the opposite charge
>is impossible, and to suggest otherwise is incomprehensible to me.
>
>Roger
>
>
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