Maybe I did go a little overboard there Ivan. Nevertheless, I was greatly
impressed
with the logic of your presentation..

I'm surprised that others on the list who have previously gone on record as
having said
that they take a gulp or two of CS every day haven't entered the fray as
yet.

I'm aware that most flu symptoms are caused by viruses, and that bacteria
are opportunistic in their attack on the human body, particularly if the
host
is not in good health.

Does CS have any affect on viruses as it does with bacteria?
Or does the virus do its job of weakening the bodies natural defences
so that the opportunist bacteria then 'has its evil way with you'?

Anybody at all!

Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivan Anderson" <i...@win.co.nz>
To: "Silver-List" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>"Innoculating" Ourselves with CS


> Hi there Rob,
>
> Flu season here too.
>
> Thank you for your kind words ... but to accept what I say without
> hesitation is fraught with danger, that you can accept without
> hesitation.
>
> I'm sure that a small prophylactic dose of CS will not hurt you, I'm
> just not sure that it will do much good.
>
> Given that the flu and like bugs establish headquarters in the nasal
> passages and ears, a daily sniff and dose in the ears might be more
> effective. These are the very places where blood borne silver is less
> likely to be effective. Thoughts anyone?
>
> There is some question to whether a constant dose of silver might not
> stimulate the production of metallothioneins and other chelators, which
> might have the effect of removing the silver before it has time to react
> with microbes, and require a larger dose than otherwise needed, when the
> chips are down.
>
> I don't like to think of people taking CS as a substitute for improving
> their general health, and given the choice, I would take a good diet and
> really good mineral and vit. supplement and Lipoic acid before CS, if
> you see what I mean.
>
> However, I find myself having a couple of spray and sniffs in the
> mornings that I go to uni or town, and I guess, now that I think of it,
> most nights I swish a small amount through my teeth after brushing, and
> I'm damned if I'm going to spit it out!
>
> So when all is said and done... I don't walk the talk!
>
> Ivan.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Lowe" <r...@primus.com.au>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 10:13
> Subject: Re: CS>"Innoculating" Ourselves with CS
>
>
> > Ivan, I for one have appreciated your clear and concise input to this
> list
> > over the while that I have subscribed and I have no hesitation in
> accepting
> > all that you say
> > without question...However, if you don't mind me asking-(as a very
> > non-techie!),
> > would you suggest that a small daily prophylactic dose of Cs be taken,
> > particularly
> > during the Flu season which has just started here in Aus?
> > Due to a very severe dose of flu that I had last year, which I blame
> on a
> > flu injection,
> > I decided that I wouldn't have one this year!
> > Your input would be appreciated here in light of your comments
> regarding
> > point 5 below.
> >
> > Thanks, and keep posting--
> > Rob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <rogalt...@aol.com>
> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>"Innoculating" Ourselves with CS
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 00-06-04 23:35:49 EDT, you write:
> > >
> > > << Subj:     Re: CS>"Innoculating" Ourselves with CS
> > >  Date:  00-06-04 23:35:49 EDT
> > >  From:  i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson)
> > >  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >  To:    silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >
> > >  Well, to be clear Roger, this is my view :
> > >
> > >  1.The best protection from pathogens and toxins is a healthy immune
> > >  system.
> > >
> > >  2. Silver is not an immune system booster but rather an adjunct to
> it.
> > >
> > >  3. Silver works by disabling pathogens so that they may not
> proliferate,
> > >  thus lessening the work required by the immune system to clear the
> > >  infection.
> > >
> > >  4. The metallothioneins which the body uses to chelate and
> eliminate
> > >  toxic metals are used to eliminate silver also. If high doses of
> silver
> > >  are present these proteins may not be able to eliminate toxic
> metals as
> > >  readily, and if overwhelmed, may result in the deposition of silver
> in
> > >  the tissue.
> > >
> > >  5. I would use silver in fairly large doses at the onset and
> throughout
> > >  the course of an infection, split into many small doses during the
> day,
> > >  and discontinue silver use once the infection has passed.
> > >
> > >  6. I would use silver as a preventative before eating suspect food,
> > >  close contact with infectious persons etc., and as a disinfective
> in the
> > >  kitchen (notably inside the refrigerator) and bathroom.
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >  Ivan. >>
> > >
> > > Ivan:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for you insight. I'm particularly interested in
> item (4)
> > > which I will repeat, piece by piece, here.
> > >
> > > 4. "The metallothioneins which the body uses to chelate and
> eliminate
> > >  toxic metals are used to eliminate silver also."
> > >
> > > Can you provide a reference that supports this statement with regard
> to
> > > colloidal silver?
> > >
> > > "If high doses of silver are present these proteins may not be able
> to
> > > eliminate toxic metals as readily, and if overwhelmed, may result in
> the
> > > deposition of silver in
> > >  the tissue."
> > >
> > > Proponents of colloidal silver have been telling us that it will not
> cause
> > > Argyria at practically any level of concentration/ingestion rate. We
> have
> > all
> > > heard of individuals who continue to take massive quantities of it
> without
> > > any negative effects. I myself took 2.3 mg per day for several
> months
> > without
> > > any noticeable impairment. So in light of these observations could
> you
> > please
> > > expand on your statement above?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
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