----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Anderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 17 June 2000 23:54 Subject: Re: CS>A Recent Batch of My HVAC CS was analyzed for Nitrate & theResult is . . .
> Hi there Bob, > > That's very interesting. > So the drop in pH is dependent upon an arc induced plasma but not by the > products of ionising air? > Any way of repeating the experiment and introducing a shielding gas. I > think Roger did this but I can't find the post. > > I have a little time and perhaps I can use my Tig welder, replacing the > tungsten electrode for silver and sputter with Argon shielding and > without. Not the same as HVAC I know, LVDC high Amp arc in fact. At > least we could find out whether an AC arc is needed to lower the pH. > > Ivan. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2000 00:35 > Subject: Re: CS>A Recent Batch of My HVAC CS was analyzed for Nitrate & > theResult is . . . > > > > Fred and All; > > > > When I have made HVAC using the "cone method" (that is where the water > comes up > > and submerges the center electrode) the pH is in the range of 6.2 to > 6.8 and not > > the 4 or less for the arc method. > > > > When I used the unshielded arc there was a very strong ozone and > "nitric acid" > > smell. When I shielded the arc with a pyrex glass shield there was a > significant > > reduction in the smells all most to the point of non existent. However > the pH was > > still depressed. The shield was a 1" test tube that I perforated the > end and cut > > to length to cover the center electrode and extend about 1/8" into the > DW. > > > > If you check your chemistry history the arc in air was how Dr. Farber > in Germany > > made the precursor of nitrates for their explosive manufacture for > World War 2. > > > > I suspect that the sample that failed was my HVAC arc method. Since I > am not > > selling anything, you may feel free to mention my name if that was my > sample. I > > am a hobbyist trying to determine the best method of making CS, and > any insights > > I get I will put on the list. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>

