Ivan, ( You probably have a much larger audience than you realize )
You bring up a great point about the amount of colloidal silver ingested through protein binding. However, I think even these small amounts ingested via this method can prove significant over long term use, and therefore believe that the idea is still worthy of consideration. I don't believe, when speaking "in vitro", that large amounts of colloidal silver are needed IF the colloidal silver is reaching the desired location in the body. If an "infection" in the body is being managed by the immune system but not eliminated ( as is the case with many infections, else one would not live very long ) then a one percent increase in the elimination of the infection can very well "turn the tide". Of course, this IS simplified. I believe there is a VERY significant difference in how colloidal silver works in a test tube, when placed ON the body, and when used IN the body. I am convinced that SOMETHING must be occuring that we haven't isolated yet. Even if colloidal silver is adsorbed through the upper intestinal tract, Frank et al is correct in questioning how colloidal silver retains its effectiveness once hitting the blood stream ( of course their is the ammonia hypothesis, which I really need to explore further to achieve a full understanding ). I know that if the stomach is not producing stomach acids, that the effectiveness of colloidal silver ingested is greatly improved ( as in the case when someone has not ingested foods for a long period of time ). However, this does not alone explain an increase in efficacy. Where else can colloidal silver "bind" with these protein chains? I know that on this list, side effect reports are scarce ( it is the nature of this list ). However, in the short time my website has been up, I've received a few correspondences ( and eventually anticipate more ) that are quite interesting. Of course, I strongly encourage people to speak up about any interesting effects. In particular, one individual started using a few SPRAYS per day in the mouth, and shortly thereafter discovered that using any brand of blond hair dye turned her hair orange. Upon stopping use for about a month, the hair dye's effect returned to the expected norm. This was from less than a teaspoon of colloidal silver use per day. Of course, there are valid questions about the type of colloidal silver, ect. If we start with the assumption that the information reported was accurate, then it is clear that a very strong metabolic effect was induced through the colloidal silver use ( obviously, the colloidal silver itself did not cause this condition ). I certainly haven't been able to reproduce such an effect. Wouldn't it be relatively easy to create these protein chains which preserve the ionic silver? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivan Anderson <i...@win.co.nz> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: RE: CS>Saliva Experiment Results > Stuart, Frank, Bob, > > I do not think that the idea that there can be a protective effect by the > binding of proteins to silver ions is valid. There may be some sublingual > absorption of silver, given that the silver binds to transport proteins, but > the amount of saliva is small, and the concentration of proteins whilst > large in variants is small in concentration...less than 1% of plasma. > Therefore most of the silver will progress to the stomach, and we have been > here before! > > It is obvious to my mind, that silver ions are absorbed in the upper > intestine (by methods including those mentioned by Stuart) and follow the > same route as other ions such as copper and calcium. When they cross the > basal membrane of the intestinal lumen and emerge in the plasma most will be > attached to proteins such as albumin and metallothionine, and are available > to interact with molecules which are attractive enough to relieve the > proteins of its cargo (so to speak). This might include groups found on the > cells walls of pathogens. Otherwise the are transported throughout the body > and ultimately excreted. > > The fact that silver ions complex with chloride is neither here nor there in > my opinion, and while finding the exact method of absorption is a > stimulating pursuit ;-) the outcome will not be changed by it. > > By the way, Stuart, I looked at the information given at the link you > supplied (http://www.health2us.com/transport.htm), and found a paragraph > written by me on another list is quoted word for word (twice! with no > reference), and I thought no one was listening. > > Regards > Ivan. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 10:52 > > To: Silver List > > Subject: CS>Saliva Experiment Results > > > > > > While not a rigorous scientific experiment, this simple experiment was > > devised to test the theory that saliva contains proteins that will > > prevent the silver ions in colloidal silver from combining with > > chloride. > > > > The experiment was conducted on 21 May 2001 at the Colloidal Science > > Laboratory and the results have been photographically recorded and > > presented with the results. > > > > The results can be viewed at: > > > > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/experiment/SalivaExperiment.html > > > > > > frank key > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > >
