The question is...does any given sample of colored CS also contain smaller colorless particles. That should make it easier with only one sample needed. There should be a correlation with the percentage of larger particles to depth [saturation?] of the color. [Adobe photoshop has hue and saturation adjustments lumped into one control area like brightness and contrast are.]
I have seen pale yellow, brownish yellow, brownish red, reddish brown, reddish violet and pale violet CS...and so on. I have seen colorless CS go to pale violet, then to pale red , then from pale violet to murky but still somewhat transparent brown. [sequence may be a bit off] Ken At 02:24 PM 8/1/01 -0400, you wrote: >If someone is capable of getting me samples of CS that have different sized particles, which fall in a fairly narrow range, I can make complete spectrographs from infrared to uv of the absorption. I only need a few ml of each to make the tests. > >Frank? > >Marshall > >Ode Coyote wrote: > >> That's not the element of doubt although the accuracy of TEMs and what they actually see has been disputed on this list. >> The question is how does one maintain the same small sized particle inherent in a colorless CS while darkening the color of the CS as it gets stronger? >> Does color have anything to do with particle size or doesn't it? >> If it does, you can't have it both ways. >> If it doesn't, well...OK. >> >> Or is it "It contains silver >> >> particles so small that they measure only .001 microns in size."...meaning that it also contains larger particles? >> <<<< >> >> If that is the complete statement, then, you could have it both ways but something is being left unsaid that makes nonsense out of the other statements so far as claiming something special. >> >>>> >> Even in brown CS mud, not all of the particles will be boulder [an exaggeration] sized. But if a CS consisting of particles no larger than .001 microns has a color, then, a clear colorless CS must have even smaller particles...so, .001 microns max ain't nothin special. >> <<<< >> You say that color is important yet make no mention of what the color of your CS is. >> "True Electro-Colloidal Process" What's different about that other than an inferance that there are "un-true" electro-colloidal processes? >> What would an un-true process be? >> Isn't plain old 3 nines and two wires a true electro-colloidal process? >> Ken >> >> Why does the Post Office have a sign that tells you that you can get " Up to $50 Cash back with the use of your credit card"? It's an intentional use of language to mislead by ommission and diversion! The money you get is yours and never became theirs to 'give back'. >> You can make a $50 cash withdrawal. That's not the same as 'cash back'. >> >> <<<< >> >> Sorry listers... >> misleading sales gimmik doublespeak burns my butt. >> Ken >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> <<<< >> >> At 09:39 AM 8/1/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>> >> >> If you wish to see what this product looks like by TEM (electron microscopy) you'll find it as >> Product Z on the "Images of Silver" page on our website.... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:18 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm...... >> >> "Colloidal Silver by Innovative Natural Products® is produced with Advanced >> Liquid Technology(tm), using a true Electro-Colloidal Process. >> >> It contains silver >> particles so small that they measure only .001 microns in size. >> >> The tiny size of the >> particles combined with the proper electrical charge makes Innovative NaturalProducts® Colloidal Silver the best product on the market today. >> We do extensive laboratory research that includes measuring PPM (parts per >> million), effectiveness and safety. >> >> The color of Colloidal Silver is also important. >> The darker the solution, the more potent the concentration of silver, as proven in >> labratory testing. >> >> >From our research we have determined that many companies >> simply do not know how to manufacture Colloidal Silver properly. As a result, they >> are only able to produce Colloidal Silver at low concentrations. Innovative Natural >> Products Colloidal Silver does not loose its charge and stays suspended in the >> solution at any concentration." >> ############################################################################ #### >> The two above statement are in conflict with each other. >> >> The color of the sol has to do with the particle size, not the concentration. But, as the concentration increases, generally so does the particle size, hue and depth of color. [something that nearly anyone can make being touted as something special and better than the rest?] >> >> Also, the color will stick onto the sides of a glass container in time leaving the CS liquid clear and colorless [have photo]...indicating that perhaps the larger colored particles don't have much or any charge? This colored deposit is instantly dissolved with hydrogen peroxide. Adding a little H2O2 to colored CS will clear the color as well. >> >> The real trick is to make 50 + PPM that has no color. [indicating small particles]. >> I have a lab report from the NC state DNR water lab that says 45.5 PPM ... pale yellow [was clear when samples were made but turned pale yellow over night] >> Ole Bob says nonsense. >> Well, I dunno. Since the NC state water lab doesn't do any testing for the public, I have been unable to get the figures re tested. [Samples done "under the table" via a friend that works there] They did require a minimum 8 oz sample. >> Of samples run for different lengths of time..the shortest run was weakest and the longest run was weaker than the middle run time showing that longer is not necessarily stronger. [plate out] >> Don't know what method of testing they used. [precipitate/dry, then weigh?] >> >> So I go with Ole Bobs lower test figures so as to not exaggerate. >> >> Ken >> >> At 11:39 AM 7/31/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >>>> >> >> The bottle says: >> >> True Electro-Colloidal Process >> Pure Silver (50ppm) >> Advanced Liquid Technology >> made by Innovative Natural Products, Escondido, CA >> Low Potency: 50 ppm >> Other Ingredients: Water >> 1-800-893-7467 M-F 9-4 PST >> <http://www.inovnatprod.com>www.inovnatprod.com >> >> Look for the words "Mild silver protien" and /or any sort of additive in any commercial CS claiming over 20 PPM. >> Much commercial CS is produced by a chemical precipitate method. That s NOT electro- colloidal silver. It is usually bright yellow. >> Ken >> >> At 10:17 PM 7/30/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >>>> >> >> At Whole Foods in Dallas, TX. 50 ppm is called Low Potency. There are also medium >> and high potencies by the same company. >> >> Does 2 teaspoons of 50 ppm equal 1 teaspoon of 100 ppm? >> >> Yes, but where are you going to find 100 ppm CS or even 50 ppm??? >> >> I would be very carefull of it!! >> >> "Ole Bob" >> >> <<<< >> >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> <<<< >> >> <<<< > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. 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