Roger, Your points 1,2 & 3 are indeed refinements. To my knowledge CS made with these "discoveries" in mind has not been PROVEN to be more effective. There have been a lot of opinions expressed and argued but MOSTLY by folks with a vested interest in having their view gain prominence. I don't think we want to revisit the vender insurrection that has been ably put to rest (hopefully) by Mike D. and will not address the matter further.
4 & 5 are further refinements but only in the delivery of CS. If I use the (Gatorade, MSM & DMSO) protocols shared with the list by Brooks Bradley I can see no difference in effectiveness whether I use tap/well water or distilled water to produce the CS. The increase in effectiveness is due to the REFINEMENT of the delivery process and along with the use of a nebulizer these are IN MY OPINION very important advances...but only in the delivery of CS. Whichever technique of CS production I use these delivery methods get the CS where it needs to be. AN ANECDOTE: The wife and I both came down with a respiratory infection. I produced two batches of CS using identical containers, silver electrodes the same dimensions with the same amount of water, constantly stirred. DW in one and tap water in the other. Each batch was an estimated 15 PPM. Using a nebulizer to deliver the CS caused both of our symptoms to begin to ease within the hour. I used tap water CS and she used the DW CS. Hers actually took a bit longer to completely cure because the infection was a day older. IN MY OPINION the important factor was the addition of MSM & DMSO as per Brooks Bradley's instructions and not the CS production method. While I personally agree with starting with the purest base ingredients and strive to share these views with everyone I introduce to CS, I am aware of no PROOF that anything harmful to mammals is produced in any significant quantity when DW is not used. LVDC CS using tap water APPEARS to be just as effective as LVDC CS using DW when combined with the Bradley protocols. *** Note: All of the CS I produce is done by the limiting the current density OF THE ANODE (Thanks to Mike D, Roger and the 14 or so others that corrected me!!!) to 10 uA / mm^2 and using Bob Lee's (Tai-Pan) starved electrode technique. This technique was reposted to the list on 11 October. As far as the "ionic vs particulate" argument goes, there APPEARS to be enough of each form of silver in LVDC CS that whichever is (more) responsible is almost a moot point. Again, no one has submitted PROOF one way or the other, only lots of OPINIONS. Either way I seriously doubt that the less effective form is in any way harmful and question the need to accentuate one over the other. CS works on what it works on! Getting it to the problem area is more of a concern to me than worrying about whether a single silver atom (ion) or a cluster of silver atoms is responsible. I know CS works because I have seen it work on dozens of different maladies and conditions from genital herpes to conjuctivitus to salmonella and more! Why, just this morning our 4 month old kitten was returned to her normal rambunctious condition after only 3 dropperfuls of 15 ppm CS applied directly into her mouth over the space of 6 hours. For the past 5 days she had been losing weight and unable to eat without immediately vomiting. She didn't seem to be drinking much water so the CS in the dish wasn't the answer. Would one form or the other have returned her to health in only 3 or 4 hours instead of 6? Who knows? More importantly to me is the question of who cares? My reply which you took exception to was directed to the statement made that ".you have to strain your cs with either a 1 micron filter...or you can use 5 unbleached coffee filters". This is patently FALSE! You may DESIRE to but there is certainly nothing in evidence that says you MUST do this. Let it settle and use only the top portion if you desire. The better way would be to learn how to properly control the process so that nothing is produced that you do not desire to consume. When a batch "goes bad" for one reason or another then use it externally! Refine your methods and learn to do it right. As to your comment concerning "The Study", I am participating. Because of my travel schedule, I am unable to lug around significant quantities of liquid (especially these days!). I have funded two participants but if you feel that I need to participate further then by all means let me know what else I can do. These are simply MY OPINIONS and are immune to further arguments. However, I do occasionally change MY OPINIONS when presented with suitable PROOF that MY OPINIONS are in error. See my ***Note above ;^P YMMV (your mileage may vary) Regards, George Martin Often accused of being OPINIONATED if not downright BIGOTED! Main Entry: bigúot Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t Function: noun Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot Date: 1661 : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices - bigúotúed /-g&-t&d/ adjective On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:04:05 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: =>> with our "refinements" is to =>> promote various commercial and/or egotistical interests. It is arguable =>> whether anything else hasbeen done. Those with different views can submit =>> their proof. => => =>George: But I don't agree with the statement above. Below is a list of some =>of these refinements just off the top of my head. Others can add to the list. => =>1) Recognition that at least two forms of "CS" exist, particulate and ionic. =>2) Means to change the proportion of one at the expense of the other at will. =>3) The development of various processes that have a direct impact on particle =>size distribution. =>4) The addition of various medicinals that have a HIGHLY PROBABLE, if not =>provable synergistic benefits, when used in combination with CS such as MSM, =>DMSO, H2O2, Ringers Lactate, etc. =>5) Creative ways to improve CS performance such as the use of nebulizers, =>sprays, certain type of bandages, change in body position, for example, =>holding ones head upside down to let the CS run into sinuses, to help contact =>with infection when taken internally. => =>What's MISSING is a concerted effort to get scientific derived data in a =>randomized double blind structure. Ole' Bob and I are trying to initiate such =>a program, but it is difficult to get volunteers who are willing to =>participate in such a time-consuming effort. If you haven't volunteered yet, =>perhaps you, and others reading this message, would like to help us? Even one =>lit candle is better than cursing the darkness. Roger => => => => => -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
