Ole Bob,
With all due respects for your great contribution to the understanding
of CS, you are wrong on this question.  There are several good reasons
that I know the concentrated CS we use is not the nitrate. Firstly, I
make this myself using only the de-ionized water and the silver rods.
There is absolutely no other material in the process.

Could it be that a missing link in your understanding is the polarity
reversal?  I avoid the current runaway that leads to oxidation by
switching poles every minute.

A reason that I know that the Mexican CSproducts, Microdyn and Biopur
are NOT silver nitrate is that if they were they wouldn't work in the
saturation of our water purifiers.  As with our collaborators in
Nicaragua, Potters for Peace, we saturate our earthenware purifiers with
these Mexican CS products, with good results.  If Biopur and Microdyn
were silver nitrate the silver wouldn't lodge in the purifier matrix. It
would get washed out the very first time water was put through the
purifier. The fact that numerous lab tests have proven that the the
purifier is 100% effective at killing pathogens is proof that silver is
in there. Note: the purifier is about 80% effective when the CS is NOT
used.

As I've said in a previous posting, the concentrated CS generator I use
was made by educate-yourself.org.  The folks there have told me that to
make CS that's more concentrated than the ~170ppm we get with four
hours, additional time is what is needed.  So, for example, if you want
~500ppm you would operate the generator for twelve hours.

You and others on this list have variously stated that it is impossible
to make CS with concentration higher than about 30 to 50ppm.  On the
other hand you've recently tested a CS that was about 100ppm. (That it
was supposed to have been 500ppm suggests to me that the manufacturer
had a bit of the current runaway, but not enough to see that the
solution had gone gray.) Doesn't this give you a proof that the higher
concentrations are indeed possible?

I think that the doubting Thomases here should put on there thinking
caps, and imagine that there are ways of making CS other than the ones
we know and love.  Our resident expert Roger Altman has been gracious
enough to provide us with equations in physical chemistry that prove
that the higher concentrations are indeed possible. I am concerned that
if we continue being uninformed on this process we run the risk of
turning away those would-be entrepreneurs who could do a great service
by providing concentrated CS in poor countries. The reality of Microdyn
and Biopur needs desperately to be replicated in other countries.
Regards,
Reid Harvey
Ceramic Industrial Designer
The Arsenic Research Group
Dhaka, Bangladesh

Ole Bob wrote:
Hi Reid,
If you want concentrated Silver then buy Silver nitrate!!!
They are buying some kind of compound. It is not Electro-colloid.!!!

I have never seen an analysis of the Mexican products, but having lived
in
the tropics for 9 years I wouldn't trust that stuff on bet.

"Ole Bob"




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