Here is a weird fact I just read in an interesting book about vision: a specially made box created by a physicist is filled with light. There is nothing in the box; the sides are, from what I gather, totally reflective. If you look into the box, you see darkness, although it is filled with light. This is because you can not see light, only the reflection of light from objects. If this is true (see Jabob Lieberman "TAke Off Your Glasses and See") then the idea that only particles produce color might be correct. However, isn't an ion a thing? It is a bit of an atom, right? Therefore it may be that ions CAN reflect light. I am not a physicist and do not know.
JBB Ode Coyote wrote: > > Can you get any color CS without a TE? I haven't found it yet. > I believe that having a color requires a particle and a particles are what > makes a TE visible. > If the TE is weak and the color is ,say, pale yellow... That would > indicate to me that the majority of the particles are fairly largish. But > getting a pale yellow with a strong TE would indicate that the minority of > particles are that of the yellow color producing size and the majority are > of the smaller colorless variety. > > Something i noticed the other day.. > A gallon of 25 +/- PPM crystal clear CS that's returned to the milk jug the > distilled water came out of is significantly darker than an identical jug > of distilled water. > ...some sort of refraction effect i suppose. > Humm, I wonder if my 300PPM tap water does the same? > Ken > > At 08:12 AM 12/13/01 +0600, you wrote: > >Ken, > >You alchemist you! Something you said about black, purple and yellow > >got me thinking, and now I'm going to use my 'gone off' gray, > >concentrated, once-upon-a-time CS to saturate an earthenware water > >purifier. Then we'll do the microbiological challenge on this candle. > > > >After all, when we saturate the candles with concentrated ionic CS, an > >electron is gained when this purifier dries. Or there is similar > >chemistry, the point being that silver cannot exist in our purifiers in > >the ionic form. Therefore I would imagine it makes sense that gray > >silver solution, with no TE, could be used in our purifiers. > >Thanks! > >Reid > > > >Ode Coyote said: > >Making several batches in the same location while tickling the edges of > >stable concenrations. LVDC Current controlled and mechanically stirred. > > > > One batch goes black. ..dilute to a purple appearance. Too much > >current > >for the electrode area and hydration rate. [silver oxide crystals? > >...maybe not] > >One batch goes yellow. Room temperature too cool...batch cooled off too > >fast. [If black crystals are silver oxides...why are yellow ones not > >some > >form of oxide?] > > > > Theory > > Agglomeration of silver ions to colloids is similar to any saturated > >solution. Warm water holds more material in solution before it is > >saturated. Cooler water holds less. Hydration isolates ions from each > >other > >in groups with water molecules so they tend to form smaller crystals > >when > >they drop out of solution as the saturation point, dependant on > >temperature, drops. > > As a crystal forms and drops out, more ions can take the space > >'between' > >water molecules. If ions are made and drop out faster than the water > >molecules can isolate them, they form larger crystals. > > Dropping the water temperature too fast allows larger crystals to form. > > > > Making ions faster than the water molecules can isolate them allows > >larger > >crystals to form. > > > > Temperature shifts in storage [12 hours in winter to 3-4 months from > >summer to winter] have repeatedly turned more concentrated batches than > >any > >other thing. Other things such as light have made no perceivable > >difference. > > > > All other things being equal... > > I get more concentrated colorless batches going to yellow when using > >cool > >water, > > when allowing warm water to cool too far too fast > > and using water that's too hot. [Brownian collisions?] > > Batches going other colors follow the same pattern. > > > > The "edge" of stability seems to be around 17PPM ionic in 100 deg F > >water > >[as measured with meter]. > >Colloidal [as seen by TE] content varies. > > > > I presume that a stable high concentration CS will have little ionic > >content [10 or 12 PPM in room temp water] and a very strong TE. > > How to achieve that with total repeatability...??? > > I believe, control temperature shifts and ion production/hydration > >rates > >very closely. > > > >or HVAC/DC electrosputering? > >ken > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > >
