All:

None of these things are true.  Argyria is not a condition that is limited
to the skin.  Cosmetic Argyria gets the most attention because it has a
noticeable effect.  However, silver can be deposited in organs and other
tissues.  As long as a critical level is not achieved, it is not toxic.  The
fact that light is required ( and perhaps acid ) to cause a VISIBLE
disfiguration has nothing whatsoever to do with silver being actually
DEPOSITED into tissues.

Both ionic silver and particulate silver have been documented to cause
argyria.  If the ionic silver remained ionic, it would be impossible for it
to cause Argyria.  But the fact is that I'm sure that many chemical
processes in the body can cause the silver to "plate-out".

It IS true, though, that the studies were done with toxic forms of silver
compounds.  This was soley due to the forms of silver that were available
and in use at the time.  It may be that the most minute silver particles do
not accumulate in the body at all with long term use.  But it should be
clarified that this has never been established as fact.  Perhaps Francis Key
et al could conduct a long term study ( 2-3 years ) with a few willing
voluteers.  Since their measuring equipment is capable of extremely precise
analysis of total silver content, and their product is unique, it, I think,
would be a worthy endevour...  In conjunction, levels of selenium, vitamin
E, magnesium and calcium could be monitored throughout the period.  Take an
average individual, an individual with a compromised liver, and an
individual with severe immunodeficiency disorder, and do a comparative
study.  While I don't think you could take three test cases to the FDA, it
would no doubt be the first steps in clarifying the whole issue.

Of course, if anyone wants to bankroll the study, I would love to do such a
study with a highly ionic silver and a highly particulate silver!

Jason


> My guess is that the researchers were biologists and didn't have a clue as
to the
> chemistry requirements.  If any of these steps are not done, then argyria
cannot
> form.
>
> 1. silver must be ionic, such as a compound
> 2. when silver is in the body, the skin must be exposed to light,
preferrably UV
> for seeding.
> 3. The skin must be alkaline.  Although the blood is alkaline, the skin is
> usually acid.  So washing with something like lye soap would likely do
that.
> 4. The blood must have a developer in it. Caffine is a good developer.
> 5. The ionic concentration of silver must be high enough to cause the
particles
> to grow rapidly enough to get trapped in the skin.
>
> Note that with CS, there are loads of seed particles avaiable, and most
are not
> at the skin.  So a large quantity of true colloid could also prevent
argyria as
> it would use up the ionic silver long before it found it's way to the skin
and
> any particles formed by exposure to the light.
>
> I bet if they had consulted a chemist from Kodak they could find a way to
do it
> repeatably.
>
> Marshall
>
>
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