(Note;Below I have outlined a method whereby a single electrode can be used for CS production. I need to find a source for proper silver wire in this regard. I also wish to mix this with much larger 5 gallon samples of energized tap water made by J ellis device.)
Hi all, resubscribed to list to get some info. Interested in finding firms that can test for water ozonation %, and was wondering if any firms can verify water samples having a changed bonding angle on the molecule. Also interested in obtaining silver for making colloidal silver water. My brother Robert recently shelled out 1700 dollars for John Ellis machine that produces energized tap water, and also a smaller % of ozonated distilled water. I think the URL for his product was at www.johnellis.com He claims his process rids water of any disease markers or virus ect. Having examined the device it appears the main function of the machine is to use a quartz/ ozone bulb above the boiling chamber. One can remove the bulb from the chamber and surely enough it emits an ozone smell, as I am well aquainted with ozone from other research. A jpeg of the bulb removed from the machine is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00248.jpg I am interested in comparing his water to a different ozonation process I am working with that actually passes current through the water. This uses a pair of large induction coils,(60 henry, 23 gauge wire, 1000 ohms) that are tuned for mutual induction as 180 phased series resonances to the 60 hz power grid frequency. This produces bipolar voltages equivalent to an NST, but not by transformer principle, but by bipolar resonant rise of voltage. In a NST secondary, generally a 30 ma current limited output is predicated from the fact that if we measure the inductance of L2, and by impedance calculate the available current at the specified secondary voltage output: this is the maximum current the (secondary)system will draw. In a similar fashion a short can be placed between the bipolar resonant voltage rises of these high induction coils/ where in open switch the q of each coil being ~ 15: this gives a 30 fold voltage rise compared to the voltage input. When the short is applied and measured we find its current limited value to be quite low, it is reduced to a value of q of the former consumption, about 40,000 ohms inductive reactance in this case. A neon bulb placed across these potentials will blink, and it is quickly found that when the "binary resonant system; BRS" is operated with an arc gap to produce high frequency effects from the coils, this can be measured with scoped coils around the space of that system, but the important point is that it operates with the characteristic tendency of producing a self quenching arc. An ordinary tesla coil system may wish to have the arc on primary occur in conjuction with the supply frequency, and also the arc to occur in time with the point when the supply voltage is at zero volts, or its polarity change period. The normal mode of operation might be 120 BPS, or bursts per second using two arcs per 60 hz cycle. However with the BRS system and arc gap manipulations, it was possible to produce rates of 1200 BPS. This becomes interesting in the study of making a high frequency phenomenon occur more "continuously", because typically at 120 BPS, there are long time periods existing between the RF ringdowns. Eventually a unique coil system was made using a single layer wind of speaker wire around a 3 inch stack of ceramic magnets. The arc gap for the coils was altered to consist of a water/ glass barrier. The bottom polarity electrode uses a stainless steel plate, with an intervening glass filled with water. The top (opposite voltage) connection is a needle driven through a supporting cigarette pack. By placing the needle just above the water surface, an arc can be made to occur in very rapid firings. This high frequency process apparently stimulates the magnet and its layer of windings to act as high frequency emmitors on the ends of the wire, to enable one ended neon discharges, where the fields around those neons can induce emf on a surrounding inductor. It was further found that no arcing need take place, and that simply having the needle in the water will register a tamed down rf event quite equalized for each polarity change. Here is a process where I could replace the needle with silver and make samples. Study of the neon disharges showed that one ended ones could be enhanced by giving the bulb ending a "polar capacity" in the form of aluminum foil area. One can touch this foil and feel no shock, if the body is not significantly grounded. One can also place inductors above this plate area to see the signals induced on the inductor by the rapidly changing electric field by the rf burst, which here is technically replaced by that of the neon discharge to plate area itself, since the arc gap has been eliminated by submerging the needle. Bipolar connection/ pos. of dual wind spiral sensor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRMA/DSC00117.JPG The suspended spirals will record a HF ringdown near some 300,000 hz here, but for finding the BPS rate it is advantageous to use special coils that have a very low natural resonant frequency. The inductors themselves react in this way, and two different inductors over the same plate can record different frequencies in the rf ringdown, because of the fact that the process only makes those coils ring at their own natural resonant frequency. If we have a sensor coil with a low natural resonant frequency, it becomes easier to scope out the rf ringdowns. 31,250 hz resonant bifilar inductor used for neon EM scoping http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/Dzl7004.jpg shows the inductor recieving signals from open ended neons connected to magnet winding ends. Here is where the difference of signals recieved by the arcing to surface water and immersion of opposite polarity electrode can be noted. Because the arc gap only has metal on one side, the negative charge carriers only respond on the negative half of the cycle in striking the water surface, however perhaps it is not so unreasonable to assume that perhaps a much weaker arc might issue from the water surface on the half of the cycle where it is negative. Here the scope is turned down to 2ms/div, where 20 ms of sweep across screen can show just over one 60 hz cycle. This then shows the difference between the negative and positive rf ringdowns, theorized due to the lack of charge carriers on one half of the cycle. Surface Water Arc Gap http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRMA/Dzl351.jpg Note now the difference in neon derived signals after the electrode is immersed in the water. Arcless/ 12 rf bursts/ 60 hz sweep http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRMA/Dzl12D4.jpg This activity was made at household voltage levels, where 6 times the normal two rf bursts per cycle occur. By using a variac to control the voltage, the houehold voltage level can be placed around 50 volts to study 120 and 180 BPS rates. By employing a 440 transformer with variac before attaching BRS as secondary load; one can incrementally increase the BPS rates to the point where they become uncountable on source frequency sweep rates. Excessive Ringdowns per 60 hz sweeping http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRMA/Dzl9166.jpg With a 440 transformer input multiplied 30 fold, and a highest variac voltage of 150 volts a projected 18,000 volts can be created as resonant voltage rise to device. Near this top limit the magnet begins to hum loudly and prodigious ozone is created. What became confusing was the need to be constrained to the idea that windings needed to be surrounded by the magnet to obtain this expression of resonant voltage bleedoff, since the magnet is not specifically between the resonant voltage potentials, and it deos not work in that configuration to begin with. In the first jpeg showing the spiral over a seed tray, the neon to plate connection is actually made from the shorted ends of the magnet windings, thus it is only the metal connections themselves creating the voltage attempting to reach ground. Using this idea a bath of water can replace the winding, and a neon connection to ground can be made. Bubbles will build up on the resonant potentials submerged in the water and also on a copper screen attached to neon. Water Delivery to Ground/Dawn http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRMA/Dsc00209.jpg Here .36 ma conduction to ground is noted. There is also the consideration as to whether the magnet is even needed 2 neon conduction through water to ground http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/Dsc00210.jpg Single Neon conduction, BRS midpoint as return path http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/Dsc00215.jpg The the abscense of variac regulation to the BRS will cause the bulbs to blink when grounded. BRS Neon blinking process without intervening variac regulation http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/Dsc00218.jpg It a nutshell I would like to compare samples of water for ozanation of water, or any supposed bonding angle changes. Can Anyone say who might test water samples for ozonation, or an idea of expenses involved here? The coils can be retuned for application for multiphased resonance inputs from a AC converted 480 hz alternator. In this scenario the needed capacity for the coils can be expressed as an axial water capacity, and it can also be placed in the magnetic field of an adjacent phases magnetic field in resonance. Surface area distortions of water are noted with high voltage of this kind of application. A special method of increasing the voltage to such a water cell has been discovered by utilysing interphasal magnetic compression. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/Flux%20Capacitor/Dsc00233.jpg shows how the polar capacity of the body can draw neon displacement current from the skin effects at high voltage from such spatially reacted resonances. I am also especially interested in making tests of electrolysis, to see if that process increases the efficiency. One might think that an increased bonding angle might make it easier to break up the molecule via electrolysis? Sincerely Harvey D Norris. ===== Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
