Only the larger particles settle. Marshall
ronwilson wrote: > Wish to thank everyone for their help, shortened my learning curve. > > Ken > You answered a question before I asked. > > (((((During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals > or colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS > stabilizes over night.)))) > That happened and had me puzzled. Another puzzle, The over done batch had > definite light brown color when I put into to 2 jars drained from tap on > tea jar. They darkened also over night but one is much darker than the > other. The silver must have settled out to some degree as one jar came from > the bottom half and the other from top half. Would smaller particles do this > also. Checking clear batch for TE I could not see any change top to bottom > in jar after 2 days setting. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:26 AM > Subject: Re: CS>brewing ? > > > Sound like last batch was on "track" but could have run longer. > > If the transformer setup controls current, the voltage will be lower as > the > > conductivity rises in the water once the system reaches it max current > draw > > setting of 1 ma. > > 17 volts isn't much to start with so the beginning ramp up to the > > controlled current setting [where the voltage starts to decrease] could > > take a fair amount of time. > > > > That time follows the 'runaway' curve and can vary quite a bit...even by > > hours...depending on water quality and temperature. Timing batches without > > using current control and a consistant start point can be wildly > inaccurate. > > > > Moniter the current and voltage. When it stabilizes at the max setting [1 > > ma] and the voltage begins to drop...start timing at that point or moniter > > the voltage and stop it when you reach something like 4, 5 or 6 > > volts...whatever voltage makes CS that looks good to you. > > Ion production rate [PPM per minute] is a linear function of time from > the > > time that the max set current is reached, on. > > If current control is not used, ion production rate is something like an > > exponential curve , going faster and faster. [runaway] > > > > Ionic silver is silver 'dissolved] in water, or, a solution. > > Water has a saturation point after which ions will start to form crystals. > > At that point, the TE will become more and more pronounced. The bubbler > > should prevent those crystals from getting too big, too fast. > > I'm not sure just what the saturation point is...it doesn't seem to be a > > set quantity as both TE and conductivity can grow at the same time. But, > > you'll mostly get ions in solution at first. > > > > During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals or > > colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS > > stabilizes over night. > > > > At 02:13 PM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote: > > >Tried my first CS makeing. Kens posts on color and current helped. Still > > >need some expert opinion on result. > > > > > >Equipment is toy train speed control ( found in thrift store for $1.20) > > >claims 16 volts DC but produces 17.6 at all speed settings. Controls > current > > >flow. Coins 3/4 way into water set at 1 inch for first batch 3ma in quart > > >jar. 2 1/2 hours. Stirring with bubbler. Not perfectly clear with strong > TE, > > >definite taste. Some black particles in bottom of jar. > > > > > >Changed to gallon ice tea bottle, about 3/4 full, same settings, ran for > 6 > > >hours. got brown color, strong taste, strong TE. Lot of black clumps in > > >bottom of jar. > > > > > >Read Kens post that 1 5/8" spacing and low current flow was the way. > > >Increased coin spacing to about the 1 5/8" and set current to 1ma. Ran > for 4 > > >hours, clear with week TE and taste. 6 or 8 small black particles in > bottom > > >of jar. > > > > > >Current flow was stable once set, never varied with increase in silver. > > >Seems that speed control gives constant current. > > > > > >My guess is first was close, second particles much to big and last is > mostly > > >ions. Is the ion one of any use. > > > > > >Welcome any comments. > > >Ron > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > >
