Jonathan B. Britten wrote: > So I ask: am I correct in interpreting the information below to mean > that silver ions in distilled water must be considerably smaller than > the silver compounds that appear in the TEM photos?
Yes, silver ions in distilled water are considerably smaller than silver compounds. A silver ion is smaller than a silver atom. A silver atom has an atomic radius of 0.144 nm (diameter=0.288 nm) a silver ion has an atomic radius of 0.115 (diameter=0.230 nm). Molecules of silver compounds would contain at minimum, one silver atom plus one additional atom of the other substance forming the compound. > Also, I wonder if Mr. Key would be kind enough succinctly to compare the > particle size of silver chloride, which he has previously stated forms > in vivo following ingestion of ionic CS, with the size of the silver > compounds -- mainly silver oxide -- described below. The formation of silver oxide when the water is evaporated from an ionic solution was describing what happens during the preparation of a sample for observation using a TEM. The point being that the resulting compounds formed during the preparation phase so alters the TEM image so as to make the image meaningless. Or, as a wise man once observed, what you see ain't what you got! One cannot simple desiccate an ionic solution and observe the result using a TEM. The resulting image has zero correlation with what was in the original solution. All you wind up seeing is the compounds that were formed when the water was evaporated. This phenomenon has little in common with the formation of silver chloride upon ingestion of ionic silver. There is no telling what size the silver chloride particles will be. > Lastly, does anyone know whether there is any data exploring the effects > of silver chloride? Take a look at the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for silver chloride partially reproduced below. Health Hazard Data =========================================================================== LD50-LC50 Mixture: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER. Route Of Entry - Inhalation: YES Route Of Entry - Skin: YES Route Of Entry - Ingestion: NO Health Haz Acute And Chronic: ACUTE: MAY BE HARMFUL BY INHALATION, INGESTION, OR SKIN ABSORPTION. MAY CAUSE EYE AND SKIN IRRITATION. MAY CAUSE ARGYRIA (A SLATE-GRAY OR BLUISH DISCOLORATION OF SKIN & DEEP TISSUES DUE TO THE DEPOSIT OF INSOLUBLE ALBUMINATE OF SILVER). TO THE BEST OF MFR'S KNOWLEDGE, THE CHEMICAL, PHYSICAL, AND (EFTS OF OVEREXP) Carcinogenicity - NTP: NO Carcinogenicity - IARC: NO Carcinogenicity - OSHA: NO Signs/Symptoms Of Overexp: HLTH HAZ: TOXICOLOGICAL PROPERTIES HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED. Med Cond Aggravated By Exp: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER. Emergency/First Aid Proc: EYES: IMMEDIATELY FLUSH WITH COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES. SKIN: IMMEDIATLEY WASH WITH SOAP AND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER. WASH CONTAMINATED CLOTHING BEFORE REUSE. INHAL: REMOVE TO FRESH AIR. IF NOT BREATHING GIVE ARTIFICIAL RESPIRATION. IF BREATHING IS DIFFICULT, GIVE OXYGEN. INGEST: WASH OUT MOUTH W/WATER PROVIDED PERSON IS CONSCIOUS. CALL A PHYSICIAN. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
