Greetings, Mike: I have admired the spirit to which you've applied your expertise, and I wouldn't want to sit down and argue your mathematics! I'm certain your generator produces a fine colloidal silver and under well controlled conditions.
>>>>First of all, I am not interested in producing ULVDC commercially. I think it should be a gift. Many people have freely contributed their time and money to spreading information about colloidal silver with no profit motive whatsoever. Many of us do. Mike, for instance, provides a fantastic temperment and a spirit of brotherhood that helps make everyone feel welcome. You won't see Mike posting about how X person's process is terrible, nor claiming that he's at last, for the millionth time, produced the perfect isolated silver product, although he knows at least as much about produced CS as the rest. 'Ole Bob, as an example, will occasionally hop in with a sincere challenge to those applying themselves outside of the box. As far as I'm concerned, he's earned that right, and he has the data and tests to prove his methods. 'Ole Bob keeps many a huckster honest. I certainly don't make a dime, and my expenditures in the silver arena ( and not engineering ) have been quite extensive. That said, and in the interest of authenticity, I would like to say that you should be careful making claims on processes, and judging other people's products, without any real knowledge. It's fun to think we're on the cutting edge, that we're making progress, that we are contributing to a greater cause. But when ego throws in the competition and division occur, people can actually get hurt... and not from exploding batteries, either. I see a great difference between competition between associates and blatant assaults, and it is only human nature for individuals to expect that one who steps up to the plate, to actually go to bat. As an example, I know all about both Ken's silverpuppies and Trem's Silvergens, because I OWN BOTH. I could tell you the differences in the end products, what I like about each, and even why I wouldn't give either up. I will tell you you are wrong if you think that Ken's unit produces a superior end product, although I wouldn't go so far to say that I believe Silvergens are neccessarily BETTER IN VIVO, because this is nearly impossible to establish without a large comparison population sample. I can tell you that Trem's product has been studied very closely, and has passed scrutiny that very few generators have. And this is real science, no salt test. Concerning the two generators, the end products are different, and they both make CS that I wouldn't hesitate to use in the worse possible situations. I can tell you that I get quite a few emails from professional producers, or their affiliates who complain about our recommended products page online. I tell them all the same thing, and watch them all dissapear without a trace. I listen to their spiels about how their products are superior because of promotional reasons X, Y, and Z... Alot of them sport "small particle size" due to utilizing a stabilized silver ( which is never as good as EIS ), some have great generators with poor quality water distillers built in ( which will turn any good generator into a big nine-volt battery-like setup ), some don't seem to see the difference between a successful 7 minute time-kill study and a successful 30 minute time kill study ( until it is pointed out to them ). I tell them it is very simple to have full lab work done, and prove their claims. I tell them our website guidelines. They agree to have the work done with great enthusiasm. Never has a company responded back afterward. One requirement is that if a company is in violation of FDA or FTC law, that they give an explanation on their site as to why... in one form or another. Another is not to spend time badmouthing the CS industry on their site. If anything, it is in unity that we have any strength. I've always been hard-nosed about commercial producers and CS. I give Frank the hardest time of all, because he is actually the most qualified and best equipped. I have a great interest in particulate silver, and little hard data to go on. Frank was a NASA engineer who worked on the Apollo project -- a true bonified American who reminds me alot of Tom Clancy temperment-wise. The gift you could offer the CS community -- based on past correspondances which I've viewed with interest -- is not "yet another" generator design, but real knowledge about what your generator design actually produces, and how effective it really is. I can't afford -- at this time -- to have AAS work done for you, but I can put aside the money in the near future to have some analytical work done, if you truly believe your generator "cuts the mustard". Then, from that day forward, you'll know where your product stands, and can speak with confidence. I know exactly where the nine-volt battery method stands in comparison to refined processes. I took the time to find out, because I care about the information I am providing to people. Not-for-profit is not a license, as you correctly pointed out awhile back, to be not-responsible. We can get tounge tied and calculator-bent in Schrodinger's Cat, or simply KNOW to the exent that it IS possible to know. Best Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
