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> ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 
> 
> silver-digest Digest                          Volume 103 : Issue 688
> 
> Today's Topics:
>        CS>Ebay ban of CS
>        Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
>        Re: CS>looking for information on silica sources
>        Re: CS>Ebay ban of CS
>        Re: CS>Gold wire source
>        RE: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency
>        Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency
>        CS>Re CS; Silica
>        Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
>        Re: CS>Gold wire source
>        Re: CS>Helena 
>        RE: CS>RE: sick from cs
>        Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
>        Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM conversion
>        CS>Additives to CS production...
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:20:32 -0400
> From: "Frank Key" <fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: CS>Ebay ban of CS
> 
> List members may be interested in the response from
> Ebay on why they ban
> sales of colloidal silver. Ebay considers colloidal
> silver to be a
> controlled substance the same as narcotics.
> 
> frank key
>
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> -----------
> 
> Hello Frank,
> 
> Thank you for writing eBay.
> 
> I am sorry for the confusion with this issue. 
> However, colloidal silver
> is regulated by the FDA, and they have asked us not
> to allow the sales
> of this production on our site.  Our policy
> regarding such items does
> not mention every item specifically, if this were
> the case then the page
> would be to large and most like crash most of the
> web browsers that try
> to view it.  Our policy states that we do not allow
> "Narcotics, steroids
> or other controlled substances".  Until further
> notice, this product is
> considered a controlled substance and not permitted
> on our site.
> 
> For more information on this policy, please view the
> following link:
> 
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-drug.html
> 
> I wish you the best with your future transactions.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sabastian
> rswebh...@ebay.com
> eBay Community Watch
> ______________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:20:50 -0500
> From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> 
> Just what I was looking for.
> 
> Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy"
> 
> How do you clean the impurities and garbage off the
> green thingy
> to avoid contamination?  I would think there is
> something better
> like, well, I can't think of anything now. Something
> that one
> doesn't use more than once.
> 
> At 05:38 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >url:
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62980.html
> >Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> >From: Stuff
> >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:04:57
> >
> >   > Does anyone know what the other 97% consists
> of?
> >
> >   Mostly water and stabilizers that depend on the 
> application. Here's
> >   some info:
> >
> >     4. What are H2O2 stabilizers and will they
> affect my application?
> >
> >     Most commercial  grades of H2O2 contain
> chelants  and sequestrants
> >     which minimize its decomposition under normal
> storage and handling
> >     conditions. In some applications (e.g., copper
> etching or cosmetic
> >     formulations) a  high degree of stabilization
> is  needed; whereas,
> >     in others  (e.g.,   drinking   water  
> treatment  or semiconductor
> >     manufacture)  product   purity   is   more  
> important.   For most
> >     environmental applications,  H2O2 
> stabilization  does  not affect
> >     product performance.
> >
> >     The types  of stabilizers used in H2O2 vary
> between  producers and
> >     product grades.   Colloidal   stannate   and 
> sodium pyrophosphate
> >     (present at 25 - 250 mg/L) are the traditional
> mainstays, although
> >     organophosphonates  (e.g.,   Monsanto's  
> Dequest   products)  are
> >     increasingly common.  Other additives may
> include nitrate  (for pH
> >     adjustment and  corrosion inhibition) and
> phosphoric acid  (for pH
> >     adjustment). Certain  end-uses  - which 
> depend  on  the bleaching
> >     ability of  H2O2  in   alkali   -  utilize 
> colloidal  silicate to
> >     sequester metals and thereby minimize H2O2
> decomposition.
> >
> >     http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html#4
> >
> >   Incidentally, Ken posted some good information
> earlier on using H2O2
> >   to clean electrodes:
> >
> >     It's not  neccesary  to clean off  the 
> darkness..only  remove the
> >     loose stuff.  The electrode just gets darkened
> again very  soon so
> >     scrubbing it off is pointless and you remove a
> lot of silver along
> >     with it that you could otherwise use.
> >
> >     Also, scrubbing with the green thingie smooths
> the surface  of the
> >     electrode [by removing silver]
> >
> >     A rough pitted electrode has more surface area
> and  lowers current
> >     density somewhat and provides a surface for
> any deposits  to stick
> >     to better so they don't wind up in the water.
> >
> >     It actually works better if it's not smooth.
> >
> >     One way  to remove the darkness without
> scrubbing is to  place the
> >     electrodes in  hydrogen peroxide but only for
> a few  minutes. H2O2
> >     cleans them pretty fast but if you leave them
> in it,  they'll turn
> >     black again.
> >
> >     Be sure  to rinse the H2O2 off with distilled 
> water  before using
> >     the electrodes  again.  Allowing them to  dry 
> completely probably
> >     does the trick too.
> >
> >     If you  get  some peroxide into your batch 
> while  making  CS, all
> >     sorts of weird things can happen.
> >
> >     If you  have a batch that's gone yellow, as
> little as  4  drops of
> >     peroxide per liter will clear it up in a few
> days. But  don't ever
> >     use that to start another batch.
> >
> >     Ode
> >
> >    
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60130.html
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Mike Monett
> >
> >
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> ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:23:32 -0500
> From: Garnet <garnetri...@earthlink.net>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>looking for information on silica
> sources
> 
> I have used Silicea 30C and 200C. I have not use the
> lower potencies but
> if I were to take Silicea daily I would use the
> lower potencies. It may
> be in the combo remedy Biochemic Cell Salts, I have
> taken those for
> short periods, mostly for the Mg effects, prescribed
> by a holistic
> doctor.
> 
> I just reread my post and it sounds like I was
> saying that I used
> fingernail condition and growth as an indicator of
> the H. silicea
> working. Actually my fingernail comment was in
> reference to food based
> silicon not the H. form. I have not used the H. form
> myself over an
> extended period of time. I have mostly used it for
> deep seated wounds in
> my horses, like a persistent sinus or fistula. I
> used 200c and resolved
> a long standing infected tract in one of my horses
> hooves. It was an
> amazing response as I had been treating this  for
> sometime before trying
> the Silicea.
> 
> I have also used it in a horse that has uveitis,
> during an attack (they
> are periodic). In this case I can not say what the
> effect was as I was
> giving other herbs and H. remedies. It was quite a
> severe condition. Got
> him through the episode and ended up having an
> experimental Cyclosporine
> implant put in his one good eye to control the
> Killer T Cell "over kill"
> process that happens in the eye. Uveitis is a
> generic conditioin with
> many causes, it means inflammation of the uvea, T
> Cells are mobilized
> and they actually do too much, causing degeneration
> in of the structures
> of the eye. It is a little understood condition that
> occurs in dogs and
> humans. Many go blind and never know they have it or
> that it can now be
> treated with this new implant, which is working for
> my horse very well.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 05:16, Nenah Sylver wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Garnet" <garnetri...@earthlink.net>
> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>looking for information on silica
> sources
> > 
> > 
> > > Horsetail and other mineral rich herbs are
> excellent sources and can be
> > > consumed as tea. Onions are also very rich in
> silica. Best if not cooked
> > > or only lightly. It is in the thin membrane
> between layers. Food based
> > > mineral sources are always better absorbed than
> supplements as most of
> > > these are metallic form and not in the matrix of
> the plant material
> > > which facilitates absorption. It is also present
> in fairly high amounts
> > > in oats so Oatstraw Tea would also be a good
> source.
> > >
> > > BTW Silica enhances absorption and utilization
> of Calcium and Magnesium.
> > > Studies in race horses show a reduction in
> injuries when Silica was
> > > supplemented. They used Zeolite, a metallic form
> in the studies. The
> > > research was done at U of WI. There was a short
> report in the Dec 02
> > > Equus magazine.
> > >
> > > You can also take Homeopathic Silicea to enhance
> your absorption and
> > > utilization of Silica. It makes my hair and
> fingernails grow faster and
> > > stronger and I use my fingernail condition as an
> indicator.
> > >
> > > Garnet
> > 
> > Garnet,
> > Thank you for this very important information.
> > 
> > When you say "homeopathic," what dosage are you
> talking about? Are you referring
> > to the cell salt dose (3 to 12X), or something
> higher?
> > 
> > Nenah
> > 
> > 
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> ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:49:15 -0600
> From: "sol" <pcar...@wyoming.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: CS>Ebay ban of CS
> 
> Geez, I didn't know CS was *regulated* by the FDA?
> Good thing I make my own........so now they are
> stopping sales of things they *regulate*
> proactively? 
> paula
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Frank Key 
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:20 AM
>   Subject: CS>Ebay ban of CS
>   Thank you for writing eBay.
> 
>   I am sorry for the confusion with this issue. 
> However, colloidal silver
>   is regulated by the FDA, and they have asked us
> not to allow the sales
>   of this production on our site.  

> ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:53:26 -0500
> From: Garnet <garnetri...@earthlink.net>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source
> 
> What do you use Colloidal Gold for?
> 
> Garnet
> 
> On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:45, fig...@comcast.net
> wrote:
> > Anyone know a good supplier of pure gold wire to
> make colloidal gold? 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> > 
> > 
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> ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:04:55 -0400
> From: "Richard Harris" <yr...@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> CC: "Richard Harris" <yr...@cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency
> 
> My wife & I are using SOTA'S Zapper, new model ZHC5
> ($110 US) for a few
> weeks & intend to continue. This is a continuation
> of  & improvement on Bob
> Beck's Zapper & Protocol. They have been very
> customer friendly in sending
> info & answering questions. I have a pacemaker and
> info on magnetic pulser's
> that I have seen, state that this is not intended
> for pacemaker patients
> without their doctor present. If anyone has info on
> this I'd appreciate it.
> Thanks,
> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jonathan B. Britten
> [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
>   Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:45 AM
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency
> 
> 
>   Persons interested in magnetic pulsers might wish
> to contact a person
> named Buryl Payne. He makes some devices including
> something called a "power
> pulser." His site is www.buryl.com
> 
>   I read his book. It is interesting. I will receive
> a power pulser from him
> soon.
> 
> 
>   JBB
> 
> 
> 
>   On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo,
> Robb Allen wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi......I was wondering.....has anyone attempted
> to make a magnetic
> pulser that operates at rife frequency's?
>     It seems that it would be very effective and
> could overcome alot of the
> tissue penetration problems.....perhaps people are
> already doing
> this?........anyone know?.....Robb
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:18:49 -0700
> From: Grant <nes...@shaw.ca>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency
> 
> I don't see how this would be possible.. The
> inductors and caps used in 
> magnetic pulser are so massive
> (relitavely speaking) That they simply would load
> down the cct. at rife 
> freqs..The caps would not be able to
> charge and discharge  no-where near fast enough.
> Neither would the 
> inductors be able to collapse
> the flux density fast enough..
>                                                     
>    Grant..
>                                 
> ************************************************
> 
> >     On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo,
> Robb Allen wrote:
> >
> >         Hi......I was wondering.....has anyone
> attempted to make a
> >         magnetic pulser that operates at rife
> frequency's?
> >         It seems that it would be very effective
> and could overcome
> >         alot of the tissue penetration
> problems.....perhaps people are
> >         already doing this?........anyone
> know?.....Robb
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 9 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:29:39 -0700
> From: "Harold MacDonald" <har...@direct.ca>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: CS>Re CS; Silica
> 
> I use Silicea 6X a Silicea 6X P.U.S[Silicon Dioxide]
> in a base of lactose.
> This is a Homeopathic remedy,and I find it very
> good,especially when my
> lungs get choked up with phlegm.I use this along
> with CS in my Ultrasonic
> cool mist humidifier,if it gets serious.
> Best to all,
> Harold
> 
> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 10 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:37:38 -0400
> From: Mike Monett <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> 
> url:
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63011.html
> Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> From: Stuff
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:22:47
> 
>   > Just what I was looking for.
> 
>   > Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy"
> 
>   > How do  you clean the impurities and garbage off
> the  green thingy
>   > to avoid  contamination? I would think there  is
>  something better
>   > like, well,  I  can't think of anything  now. 
> Something  that one
>   > doesn't use more than once.
> 
>   Hi Stuff,
> 
>   I think Ken is referring to the green 3M "Scotch
> Brite"  scour pads.
>   These have two sides and four flat edges, so
> there's plenty  of room
>   to find fresh areas.
> 
>   As Ken  pointed out, you shouldn't clean the
> electrodes  very often.
>   This just  removes   valuable   silver   and  
> tends  to  smooth the
>   electrodes. This reduces the surface area and
> increases  the current
>   density slightly.  Read  his  post   carefully  if
>  you  don't quite
>   understand. He packs a lot of information in a
> small space:)
> 
>   For normal  cleaning, a simple wipe is all that is
> needed  to remove
>   the soft black oxide.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mike Monett
> 
> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 11 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:51:25 -0400
> From: fig...@comcast.net
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source
> 
> > What do you use Colloidal Gold for?
> >
> > Garnet
> 
> 
> Enlightenment? Atomized into lungs. Lungs are the
> organ of higher thought.
> That's why pranayama and other breathing exercises.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Garnet" <garnetri...@earthlink.net>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source
> 
> 
> > What do you use Colloidal Gold for?
> >
> > Garnet
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:45, fig...@comcast.net
> wrote:
> > > Anyone know a good supplier of pure gold wire to
> make colloidal gold?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > 
> >
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 12 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:36:27 -0500
> From: "Hank" <h...@arkansas.net>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: CS>Helena 
> 
> Here is a very good place for .9999 #12 silver wire.
>
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&query=.9999+silver
> Look for Pure Silver Wire 9999 (NOT 999) 1 Ounce 12
> ga This may take you to one of the sites.
> The seller is on one of the CS groups and a very
> nice guy.
> 
> Sincerely Yours,
> Hank
> http://www.babelmagazine.com/
> http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> At 10:03 AM 10/03/2003, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Aloha Helena,
>     Thanks for the info. I meant silver coil.  Does
> those websites you sent
>     me also sell silver coil?
>     Thanks, Debbie

> ATTACHMENT part 13 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:32:17 -0500
> From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>RE: sick from cs
> 
> Just to clarify things, Richard, this was my
> question:
> 
> "Does anyone know what the other 97% consists of?"
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> At 08:53 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Nenah,
> >The other 97% is purified water--the 3% is
> Stabilized Hydrogen peroxide.
> >Unless you purchase the 35% food grade and dilute
> with distilled water, you
> >are using regular medicinal H2O2 which is fine and
> much easier and safer.
> >The food grade, 35%, is highly explosive; the
> cosmetic grade, 6%, is
> >explosive as is the medicinal grade, 3%. Handle
> each carefully, without
> >shaking and keep away from heat. I believe they
> store it in dark plastic
> >bottles, since flying glass bottles in explosion is
> so dangerous.
> >Best regards,
> >Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Phamacist
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
> >Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:02 PM
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> >
> >
> >At 05:56 PM 10/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <luut.verb...@freeler.nl>
> > >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:41 PM
> > >Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> >
> >Does anyone know what the other 97% consists of?
> >
> > >I always clean my silver electrodes with 3% food
> grade hydrogen peroxide.
> >It
> > >works for me.
> > >
> > >Nenah
> > >
> > >
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> ATTACHMENT part 14 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:58:19 -0500
> From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> 
> Thanks and I've saved the post to which u referred
> below.
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:37 PM 10/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >url:
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63011.html
> >Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
> >From: Stuff
> >Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:22:47
> >
> >   > Just what I was looking for.
> >
> >   > Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy"
> >
> >   > How do  you clean the impurities and garbage
> off the  green thingy
> >   > to avoid  contamination? I would think there 
> is  something better
> >   > like, well,  I  can't think of anything  now. 
> Something  that one
> >   > doesn't use more than once.
> >
> >   Hi Stuff,
> >
> >   I think Ken is referring to the green 3M "Scotch
> Brite"  scour pads.
> >   These have two sides and four flat edges, so
> there's plenty  of room
> >   to find fresh areas.
> >
> >   As Ken  pointed out, you shouldn't clean the
> electrodes  very often.
> >   This just  removes   valuable   silver   and  
> tends  to  smooth the
> >   electrodes. This reduces the surface area and
> increases  the current
> >   density slightly.  Read  his  post   carefully 
> if  you  don't quite
> >   understand. He packs a lot of information in a
> small space:)
> >
> >   For normal  cleaning, a simple wipe is all that
> is needed  to remove
> >   the soft black oxide.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Mike Monett
> >
> >
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> ATTACHMENT part 15 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat,  4 Oct 2003 15:34:53 -0500
> From: "" <bruce...@intergate.com>
> To: "" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM
> conversion
> 
> Quoting Dan Nave <na...@comcast.net>:
> 
> > "Neither scientist seized either species of weird
> leisure".
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM conversion
> > 
> >     * From: CKing001 (view other messages by this
> author)
> >     * Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:49:26
> > 
> > Geez, Vince, don't encourage me...
> > 
> > Besides, that  "I before E except after C" rule is
> really WEIRD, isn't it?
> > 
> >         Chuck
> > 
> > Smile and the world smiles with you. Frown and you
> get credit for thinking.
> > 
> > 
> > Then add the exception of when 'ei' sounds as 'a'
> as in neighbor and 
> weigh.....but wEIrd doesn't fit any of them. :-)
> Bruce A> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 16 message/rfc822 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:25:31 -5
> From: "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Additives to CS production...
> 
> To Nenah and others discussing this:
> 
> It kinda surprises me that it has come up. 
> 
> Back in the early days we were taught to use a
> "pinch" of salt (NaCl) 
> or a drop or two of salt solution in our brew
> vessels as a "starter" to 
> get the process going more quickly. Baking soda was
> also a suggested 
> alternative.
> 
> The result was a process that worked at high current
> and very rapidly,  
> producing large particles that often settled out
> after a few days or 
> weeks. In only took a few minutes to produce a
> batch, and your 
> electrodes never had a chance to collect any
> "fluff." The recipes you 
> found online commonly stated that you would get
> about "1ppm per 
> minute." 
> 
> It was quite exciting to watch, in fact, with all
> the bubbling and 
> whisps of stuff coming off the electrodes.
> 
> A lot of people used this method for a long time,
> and some still do. It 
> was the first process I learned, and I used it for a
> year or two. It 
> worked and was part and parcel of the popularization
> of Colloidal 
> Silver in the modern era.
> 
> Generally, people started moving towards using only
> distilled water 
> when they began examining the particle size issue. 
> 
> There was some concern that the larger particles
> presented an increased 
> risk of argyria, though that effect was never
> demonstrated. (Of course, 
> now there's Stan, the Senate candidate.)
> 
> There was also concern that the use of  a "starter"
> produced other 
> compounds (like silver chloride or carbonate), at
> least in the early 
> stages of the process, that could be harmful in and
> of themselves. This 
> was never proved to be a real concern, given the low
> toxicity and 
> concentration of the likely by-products.  (Except in
> Stan's case, of 
> course! <sigh>)
> 
> Nonetheless, people started working to understand
> the process in pure 
> distilled water, leading to countless experiments in
> current limiting, 
> other voltage ranges, AC vs. DC, polarity switching,
> and so on.
> 
> All this is somewhat apart from the issue of pH.
> Adding buffers to the 
> CS *after* production will still effect the ionic
> portion, likely  
> leading to some colorful displays along the way as
> your silver ions  
> precipitate and agglomerate into particles of silver
> salts. 
> 
> Certainly worth study. Perhaps a way can be found to
> balance the pH 
> without compromising the silver component?
> 
> One other thing I can suggest, if you're interested
> in the utility of 
> these methods, is that *very low* concentrations of
> production 
> additives were never explored to my satisfaction.
> They *might* prove 
> beneficial to ease-of-production and
> reproduceability with minimal 
> impact on safety or effectiveness. Who knows, eh?
> 
> For the sake of the newcomers and lurkers, please
> understand that for 
> now, at least, standard practice is to use only
> distilled water. 
> 
> That's your bed-time story for today. G'night boys
> and girls! <grin>
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
> [Speaking only for myself...               ]
> 
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