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> ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > silver-digest Digest Volume 103 : Issue 688 > > Today's Topics: > CS>Ebay ban of CS > Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > Re: CS>looking for information on silica sources > Re: CS>Ebay ban of CS > Re: CS>Gold wire source > RE: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency > Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency > CS>Re CS; Silica > Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > Re: CS>Gold wire source > Re: CS>Helena > RE: CS>RE: sick from cs > Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM conversion > CS>Additives to CS production... > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:20:32 -0400 > From: "Frank Key" <fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: CS>Ebay ban of CS > > List members may be interested in the response from > Ebay on why they ban > sales of colloidal silver. Ebay considers colloidal > silver to be a > controlled substance the same as narcotics. > > frank key > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > Hello Frank, > > Thank you for writing eBay. > > I am sorry for the confusion with this issue. > However, colloidal silver > is regulated by the FDA, and they have asked us not > to allow the sales > of this production on our site. Our policy > regarding such items does > not mention every item specifically, if this were > the case then the page > would be to large and most like crash most of the > web browsers that try > to view it. Our policy states that we do not allow > "Narcotics, steroids > or other controlled substances". Until further > notice, this product is > considered a controlled substance and not permitted > on our site. > > For more information on this policy, please view the > following link: > > http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-drug.html > > I wish you the best with your future transactions. > > Regards, > > Sabastian > rswebh...@ebay.com > eBay Community Watch > ______________________________ > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:20:50 -0500 > From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > > Just what I was looking for. > > Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy" > > How do you clean the impurities and garbage off the > green thingy > to avoid contamination? I would think there is > something better > like, well, I can't think of anything now. Something > that one > doesn't use more than once. > > At 05:38 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >url: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62980.html > >Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > >From: Stuff > >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:04:57 > > > > > Does anyone know what the other 97% consists > of? > > > > Mostly water and stabilizers that depend on the > application. Here's > > some info: > > > > 4. What are H2O2 stabilizers and will they > affect my application? > > > > Most commercial grades of H2O2 contain > chelants and sequestrants > > which minimize its decomposition under normal > storage and handling > > conditions. In some applications (e.g., copper > etching or cosmetic > > formulations) a high degree of stabilization > is needed; whereas, > > in others (e.g., drinking water > treatment or semiconductor > > manufacture) product purity is more > important. For most > > environmental applications, H2O2 > stabilization does not affect > > product performance. > > > > The types of stabilizers used in H2O2 vary > between producers and > > product grades. Colloidal stannate and > sodium pyrophosphate > > (present at 25 - 250 mg/L) are the traditional > mainstays, although > > organophosphonates (e.g., Monsanto's > Dequest products) are > > increasingly common. Other additives may > include nitrate (for pH > > adjustment and corrosion inhibition) and > phosphoric acid (for pH > > adjustment). Certain end-uses - which > depend on the bleaching > > ability of H2O2 in alkali - utilize > colloidal silicate to > > sequester metals and thereby minimize H2O2 > decomposition. > > > > http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html#4 > > > > Incidentally, Ken posted some good information > earlier on using H2O2 > > to clean electrodes: > > > > It's not neccesary to clean off the > darkness..only remove the > > loose stuff. The electrode just gets darkened > again very soon so > > scrubbing it off is pointless and you remove a > lot of silver along > > with it that you could otherwise use. > > > > Also, scrubbing with the green thingie smooths > the surface of the > > electrode [by removing silver] > > > > A rough pitted electrode has more surface area > and lowers current > > density somewhat and provides a surface for > any deposits to stick > > to better so they don't wind up in the water. > > > > It actually works better if it's not smooth. > > > > One way to remove the darkness without > scrubbing is to place the > > electrodes in hydrogen peroxide but only for > a few minutes. H2O2 > > cleans them pretty fast but if you leave them > in it, they'll turn > > black again. > > > > Be sure to rinse the H2O2 off with distilled > water before using > > the electrodes again. Allowing them to dry > completely probably > > does the trick too. > > > > If you get some peroxide into your batch > while making CS, all > > sorts of weird things can happen. > > > > If you have a batch that's gone yellow, as > little as 4 drops of > > peroxide per liter will clear it up in a few > days. But don't ever > > use that to start another batch. > > > > Ode > > > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60130.html > > > >Best Regards, > > > >Mike Monett > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:23:32 -0500 > From: Garnet <garnetri...@earthlink.net> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>looking for information on silica > sources > > I have used Silicea 30C and 200C. I have not use the > lower potencies but > if I were to take Silicea daily I would use the > lower potencies. It may > be in the combo remedy Biochemic Cell Salts, I have > taken those for > short periods, mostly for the Mg effects, prescribed > by a holistic > doctor. > > I just reread my post and it sounds like I was > saying that I used > fingernail condition and growth as an indicator of > the H. silicea > working. Actually my fingernail comment was in > reference to food based > silicon not the H. form. I have not used the H. form > myself over an > extended period of time. I have mostly used it for > deep seated wounds in > my horses, like a persistent sinus or fistula. I > used 200c and resolved > a long standing infected tract in one of my horses > hooves. It was an > amazing response as I had been treating this for > sometime before trying > the Silicea. > > I have also used it in a horse that has uveitis, > during an attack (they > are periodic). In this case I can not say what the > effect was as I was > giving other herbs and H. remedies. It was quite a > severe condition. Got > him through the episode and ended up having an > experimental Cyclosporine > implant put in his one good eye to control the > Killer T Cell "over kill" > process that happens in the eye. Uveitis is a > generic conditioin with > many causes, it means inflammation of the uvea, T > Cells are mobilized > and they actually do too much, causing degeneration > in of the structures > of the eye. It is a little understood condition that > occurs in dogs and > humans. Many go blind and never know they have it or > that it can now be > treated with this new implant, which is working for > my horse very well. > > Garnet > > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 05:16, Nenah Sylver wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Garnet" <garnetri...@earthlink.net> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: CS>looking for information on silica > sources > > > > > > > Horsetail and other mineral rich herbs are > excellent sources and can be > > > consumed as tea. Onions are also very rich in > silica. Best if not cooked > > > or only lightly. It is in the thin membrane > between layers. Food based > > > mineral sources are always better absorbed than > supplements as most of > > > these are metallic form and not in the matrix of > the plant material > > > which facilitates absorption. It is also present > in fairly high amounts > > > in oats so Oatstraw Tea would also be a good > source. > > > > > > BTW Silica enhances absorption and utilization > of Calcium and Magnesium. > > > Studies in race horses show a reduction in > injuries when Silica was > > > supplemented. They used Zeolite, a metallic form > in the studies. The > > > research was done at U of WI. There was a short > report in the Dec 02 > > > Equus magazine. > > > > > > You can also take Homeopathic Silicea to enhance > your absorption and > > > utilization of Silica. It makes my hair and > fingernails grow faster and > > > stronger and I use my fingernail condition as an > indicator. > > > > > > Garnet > > > > Garnet, > > Thank you for this very important information. > > > > When you say "homeopathic," what dosage are you > talking about? Are you referring > > to the cell salt dose (3 to 12X), or something > higher? > > > > Nenah > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for > discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > < > > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:49:15 -0600 > From: "sol" <pcar...@wyoming.com> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: Re: CS>Ebay ban of CS > > Geez, I didn't know CS was *regulated* by the FDA? > Good thing I make my own........so now they are > stopping sales of things they *regulate* > proactively? > paula > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frank Key > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:20 AM > Subject: CS>Ebay ban of CS > Thank you for writing eBay. > > I am sorry for the confusion with this issue. > However, colloidal silver > is regulated by the FDA, and they have asked us > not to allow the sales > of this production on our site. > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:53:26 -0500 > From: Garnet <garnetri...@earthlink.net> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source > > What do you use Colloidal Gold for? > > Garnet > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:45, fig...@comcast.net > wrote: > > Anyone know a good supplier of pure gold wire to > make colloidal gold? > > > > Thanks > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for > discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > Â > > ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:04:55 -0400 > From: "Richard Harris" <yr...@cfl.rr.com> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > CC: "Richard Harris" <yr...@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: RE: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency > > My wife & I are using SOTA'S Zapper, new model ZHC5 > ($110 US) for a few > weeks & intend to continue. This is a continuation > of & improvement on Bob > Beck's Zapper & Protocol. They have been very > customer friendly in sending > info & answering questions. I have a pacemaker and > info on magnetic pulser's > that I have seen, state that this is not intended > for pacemaker patients > without their doctor present. If anyone has info on > this I'd appreciate it. > Thanks, > Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan B. Britten > [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:45 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency > > > Persons interested in magnetic pulsers might wish > to contact a person > named Buryl Payne. He makes some devices including > something called a "power > pulser." His site is www.buryl.com > > I read his book. It is interesting. I will receive > a power pulser from him > soon. > > > JBB > > > > On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, > Robb Allen wrote: > > > Hi......I was wondering.....has anyone attempted > to make a magnetic > pulser that operates at rife frequency's? > It seems that it would be very effective and > could overcome alot of the > tissue penetration problems.....perhaps people are > already doing > this?........anyone know?.....Robb > > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:18:49 -0700 > From: Grant <nes...@shaw.ca> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency > > I don't see how this would be possible.. The > inductors and caps used in > magnetic pulser are so massive > (relitavely speaking) That they simply would load > down the cct. at rife > freqs..The caps would not be able to > charge and discharge no-where near fast enough. > Neither would the > inductors be able to collapse > the flux density fast enough.. > > Grant.. > > ************************************************ > > > On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, > Robb Allen wrote: > > > > Hi......I was wondering.....has anyone > attempted to make a > > magnetic pulser that operates at rife > frequency's? > > It seems that it would be very effective > and could overcome > > alot of the tissue penetration > problems.....perhaps people are > > already doing this?........anyone > know?.....Robb > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 9 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:29:39 -0700 > From: "Harold MacDonald" <har...@direct.ca> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: CS>Re CS; Silica > > I use Silicea 6X a Silicea 6X P.U.S[Silicon Dioxide] > in a base of lactose. > This is a Homeopathic remedy,and I find it very > good,especially when my > lungs get choked up with phlegm.I use this along > with CS in my Ultrasonic > cool mist humidifier,if it gets serious. > Best to all, > Harold > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 10 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:37:38 -0400 > From: Mike Monett <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > > url: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63011.html > Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > From: Stuff > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:22:47 > > > Just what I was looking for. > > > Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy" > > > How do you clean the impurities and garbage off > the green thingy > > to avoid contamination? I would think there is > something better > > like, well, I can't think of anything now. > Something that one > > doesn't use more than once. > > Hi Stuff, > > I think Ken is referring to the green 3M "Scotch > Brite" scour pads. > These have two sides and four flat edges, so > there's plenty of room > to find fresh areas. > > As Ken pointed out, you shouldn't clean the > electrodes very often. > This just removes valuable silver and > tends to smooth the > electrodes. This reduces the surface area and > increases the current > density slightly. Read his post carefully if > you don't quite > understand. He packs a lot of information in a > small space:) > > For normal cleaning, a simple wipe is all that is > needed to remove > the soft black oxide. > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 11 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:51:25 -0400 > From: fig...@comcast.net > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source > > > What do you use Colloidal Gold for? > > > > Garnet > > > Enlightenment? Atomized into lungs. Lungs are the > organ of higher thought. > That's why pranayama and other breathing exercises. > > Dan > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garnet" <garnetri...@earthlink.net> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Gold wire source > > > > What do you use Colloidal Gold for? > > > > Garnet > > > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:45, fig...@comcast.net > wrote: > > > Anyone know a good supplier of pure gold wire to > make colloidal gold? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for > discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > Â > > > > ATTACHMENT part 12 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:36:27 -0500 > From: "Hank" <h...@arkansas.net> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: Re: CS>Helena > > Here is a very good place for .9999 #12 silver wire. > http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&query=.9999+silver > Look for Pure Silver Wire 9999 (NOT 999) 1 Ounce 12 > ga This may take you to one of the sites. > The seller is on one of the CS groups and a very > nice guy. > > Sincerely Yours, > Hank > http://www.babelmagazine.com/ > http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > At 10:03 AM 10/03/2003, you wrote: > > > > Aloha Helena, > Thanks for the info. I meant silver coil. Does > those websites you sent > me also sell silver coil? > Thanks, Debbie > ATTACHMENT part 13 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:32:17 -0500 > From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: CS>RE: sick from cs > > Just to clarify things, Richard, this was my > question: > > "Does anyone know what the other 97% consists of?" > > Thanks for the info. > > At 08:53 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Nenah, > >The other 97% is purified water--the 3% is > Stabilized Hydrogen peroxide. > >Unless you purchase the 35% food grade and dilute > with distilled water, you > >are using regular medicinal H2O2 which is fine and > much easier and safer. > >The food grade, 35%, is highly explosive; the > cosmetic grade, 6%, is > >explosive as is the medicinal grade, 3%. Handle > each carefully, without > >shaking and keep away from heat. I believe they > store it in dark plastic > >bottles, since flying glass bottles in explosion is > so dangerous. > >Best regards, > >Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Phamacist > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] > >Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:02 PM > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > > > > > >At 05:56 PM 10/2/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <luut.verb...@freeler.nl> > > >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:41 PM > > >Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > > > >Does anyone know what the other 97% consists of? > > > > >I always clean my silver electrodes with 3% food > grade hydrogen peroxide. > >It > > >works for me. > > > > > >Nenah > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for > discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 14 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:58:19 -0500 > From: Stuff <st...@laguna.com.mx> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > > Thanks and I've saved the post to which u referred > below. > > > > At 12:37 PM 10/4/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >url: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63011.html > >Re: CS>RE: sick from cs > >From: Stuff > >Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:22:47 > > > > > Just what I was looking for. > > > > > Re: "scrubbing with the green thingy" > > > > > How do you clean the impurities and garbage > off the green thingy > > > to avoid contamination? I would think there > is something better > > > like, well, I can't think of anything now. > Something that one > > > doesn't use more than once. > > > > Hi Stuff, > > > > I think Ken is referring to the green 3M "Scotch > Brite" scour pads. > > These have two sides and four flat edges, so > there's plenty of room > > to find fresh areas. > > > > As Ken pointed out, you shouldn't clean the > electrodes very often. > > This just removes valuable silver and > tends to smooth the > > electrodes. This reduces the surface area and > increases the current > > density slightly. Read his post carefully > if you don't quite > > understand. He packs a lot of information in a > small space:) > > > > For normal cleaning, a simple wipe is all that > is needed to remove > > the soft black oxide. > > > >Best Regards, > > > >Mike Monett > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > ATTACHMENT part 15 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:34:53 -0500 > From: "" <bruce...@intergate.com> > To: "" <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM > conversion > > Quoting Dan Nave <na...@comcast.net>: > > > "Neither scientist seized either species of weird > leisure". > > > > Dan > > > > Re: CS> Trem, Question about uS/PPM conversion > > > > * From: CKing001 (view other messages by this > author) > > * Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:49:26 > > > > Geez, Vince, don't encourage me... > > > > Besides, that "I before E except after C" rule is > really WEIRD, isn't it? > > > > Chuck > > > > Smile and the world smiles with you. Frown and you > get credit for thinking. > > > > > > Then add the exception of when 'ei' sounds as 'a' > as in neighbor and > weigh.....but wEIrd doesn't fit any of them. :-) > Bruce A> > > -- > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for > discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > ATTACHMENT part 16 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:25:31 -5 > From: "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Additives to CS production... > > To Nenah and others discussing this: > > It kinda surprises me that it has come up. > > Back in the early days we were taught to use a > "pinch" of salt (NaCl) > or a drop or two of salt solution in our brew > vessels as a "starter" to > get the process going more quickly. Baking soda was > also a suggested > alternative. > > The result was a process that worked at high current > and very rapidly, > producing large particles that often settled out > after a few days or > weeks. In only took a few minutes to produce a > batch, and your > electrodes never had a chance to collect any > "fluff." The recipes you > found online commonly stated that you would get > about "1ppm per > minute." > > It was quite exciting to watch, in fact, with all > the bubbling and > whisps of stuff coming off the electrodes. > > A lot of people used this method for a long time, > and some still do. It > was the first process I learned, and I used it for a > year or two. It > worked and was part and parcel of the popularization > of Colloidal > Silver in the modern era. > > Generally, people started moving towards using only > distilled water > when they began examining the particle size issue. > > There was some concern that the larger particles > presented an increased > risk of argyria, though that effect was never > demonstrated. (Of course, > now there's Stan, the Senate candidate.) > > There was also concern that the use of a "starter" > produced other > compounds (like silver chloride or carbonate), at > least in the early > stages of the process, that could be harmful in and > of themselves. This > was never proved to be a real concern, given the low > toxicity and > concentration of the likely by-products. (Except in > Stan's case, of > course! <sigh>) > > Nonetheless, people started working to understand > the process in pure > distilled water, leading to countless experiments in > current limiting, > other voltage ranges, AC vs. DC, polarity switching, > and so on. > > All this is somewhat apart from the issue of pH. > Adding buffers to the > CS *after* production will still effect the ionic > portion, likely > leading to some colorful displays along the way as > your silver ions > precipitate and agglomerate into particles of silver > salts. > > Certainly worth study. Perhaps a way can be found to > balance the pH > without compromising the silver component? > > One other thing I can suggest, if you're interested > in the utility of > these methods, is that *very low* concentrations of > production > additives were never explored to my satisfaction. > They *might* prove > beneficial to ease-of-production and > reproduceability with minimal > impact on safety or effectiveness. Who knows, eh? > > For the sake of the newcomers and lurkers, please > understand that for > now, at least, standard practice is to use only > distilled water. > > That's your bed-time story for today. G'night boys > and girls! <grin> > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com