At 07:11 AM 12/20/2005, you wrote:
You said it all, Ode! Thanks for an informational reply. I especially
appreciated the historical context! I first learned about Echelon during
the latter years of the Clinton administration, when I began to "wake up
and smell the coffee" and also became adept at using the Internet. Big
Brother also scans every single e-mail transmission. Heck, Rush was
discussing yesterday that they can even lock onto transmissions of the baby
monitors people have in their homes to listen to their infants from another
room.
The snoopers look for key words in e-mails such as bo-mb, etc. Anything
that might yield information about terrorism or presumably even political
non-correctness re: the people in power could trigger the system and make
one be fair game for perusal. My friend's son, who was and still is a
computer guru told me all about it back then and I don't imagine they have
become less sophisticated in the interim. They have had nearly 60 years to
perfect the tools of their trade. And Senator Boxer, and others who have
piled on and are sanctimoniously attacking Bush, know it! But it makes
good political fodder for those listening to such attackers who want to
believe the worst. The New York Times, the self-righteous Dems, and
anyone who would put our country in jeopardy willingly in exchange for
political advantage know what Simon and Garfunkel sang years ago is true
-- "a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest!"
Now, then, if they hear of a better way to make, use, and get the word out
about CS, we will all give Echelon three cheers.
Marlys
Get real!
So what has the NSA top secret "Echelon" project [that so many people know
about somehow] been doing for the past 40+ years other than scanning every
satellite, Internet, radio, FAX and cell phone transmission that
.................suddenly makes it Bush's baby?
Is this the "Great Society" legacy of Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson and the
mobster smuggler Kennedys?
Maybe not, but they sure didn't stop it.
Echelons beginnings date from 1948.
NSA started in 1952 under Harry Truman...another Democrat...and one of
the main missions was to "eavesdrop" on steel mills to prevent a strike
and everyone else later on using the Echelon system after the Supreme
Court ruled that illegal..by placing control under a TOP SECRET
agency [NSA] that doesn't report to the Supreme Court.
The Crisis Mongers are apparently attempting to fill Georges can with
their own crap legacy.
"Domestic Spying" is most certainly not "new" news.
Echelon listens to EVERYTHING in the air, all over the world.
The only thing that George is doing differently is sharing the info with
other agencies and not denying that the system exists. [but still doesn't
utter the word "Echelon"]
He also doesn't waste a lot of energy defending himself when he could
and someone else would, were they in his shoes.
The crisis mongers are confusing "domestic wire" taps with listening in
to the public airwaves which is legal for anyone to do.
Cell phone calls and police radios are regularly listened into by
private individuals who own scanners.
The only restrictions are about how the info is 'used' and there is a 72
hour window to get a retroactive warrant on info already collected should
it be useful..which [so far as I can tell] includes domestic "wire" taps
if the tap in not located inside a building.
A warrant is obtained so the info can be used in court.
Trans Oceanic cables are not domestic lines and anything broadcast is
Public Domain.
Planting "bugs" in a room is a different story being discussed with the
advent of laser listening devices that don't attach to or enter into a
building.
Planting a bug requires a warrant to gain entry in order to plant the
bug with no retroactive provision.
There are no laws against anyone using a hearing aid, a vibrating window
is a speaker and sounds broadcast in the air are Public Domain.
Right or wrong aside
Anyone with a desire to maintain privacy has known to use encryption and
codes for a long long time.
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