Robert Berger wrote:
> I would like to know why the people on this list feel the need to add > H2O2 to EIS ??? > > > Because tests run by Brookes Bradley indicated an increase in > effectiveness of between 500 and 1000% and those who have tried it > have also reported a significant increase in effectiveness. > If you make the EIS correctly then the addition of H2O2 creats as > T.E. that should not be there !!! > > Why do you say that? It usually produces a week tyndall, normalizing > all batches regardless of if the tyndall was initially very week or > very strong. I have no idea why you say it should not be there, if > you have some level of particles which are very necessary, then there > will be tyndall. > > Switch to assymetrical electrodes as two othe people on this list > have, and you like their product. > > What is the asymetrical electrode? > When I made their systems I asked them to not reveal it as i am not > in the business of making EIS systems. When my booklet comes out in a > couple of weeks it will detail the process, and why one should do > somethings. Diagrams, data plots, T.E.M.s the whole nine yards, even > and invitro comparison with the best. > > > In vitro is amost meanless except for determining the effectiveness as > a disinfectant, in vivo has to be done to determine effectiveness when > taken internally. > > Marshall > > > "Ole Bob" > > Dan Nave <na...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Did you add the H2O2 to the batches at the same rel! ative > time after the > CS had been made? In other words, did one batch cure longer > than the > other before you added the H2O2? Someone has indicated that > the > reaction of the CS to H2O2 is different depending on how > fresh the CS is > or how long the CS has cured. > > On the new brew, perhaps try taking smaller batch quantities > and adding > H202 to these smaller quantities at different times relative > to when the > CS was made. EG, using the same brew: > > Batch 1 has H2O2 added immediately after it has been made. > > Batch 2 has H2O2 added 3 hours after it has been made. > > Batch 3 has H2O2 added 6 hours after it has been made. > > Batch 4 has H2O2 added 9 hours after it has been made. > > Batch 4 has H2O2 added 12 hours after it has been made. > > Batch 5 has H2O2 added 24 hours after it has been made. > > and so on... > > Dan > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Subject: CS>EIS and H2O2 > > From: Marshall Dudley > > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:44:02 -0500 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > OK, I am totally buffaloed now. I have made two 5 gallon > batches and > > added H2O2 to them. Everything is as close to identical > between them as I > > can get, but the reactions were totally different. > > > > Batches were produced as follows: > > > > Initial pH of water = 6.8 > > electrode area = 48 square inches each .999 silver plates > > current = 38 mA > > voltage ran typically 15-16 volts during making it > > continuous stirring, and polarity reversal at one minute > per half cycle. > > Silver content estimate from conductivity measurements 20 > ppm > > both were crystal clear, and measured 16.5 uS. > > both batches made at about 62 degrees F. > > tyndall was faint > > did not measure pH bef! ore adding H2O2 > > > > Added .5 teaspoon H2O2 per gallon, IE 2.5 teaspoons of 3% > to 5 gallons to > > give 17 ppm > > First batch tyndall stayed faint, maybe even became > fainter - > > conductivity measured 16 uS essentially unchanged > > Second batch tyndall became strong, EIS has a slightly > cloudy look, but > > no color, conductivity 9.5 uS approximately halved. > > Both batches measure a pH of about 7.6 after adding H2O2. > Adding H2O2 to > > distilled water gives a pH of 6.8 unchanged from plain DW. > > > > > Taking samples of the second batch I did the following: > > > > Heated it, cloudiness and tyndall stayed the same, > indicating that it was > > no silver chloride or silver oxide precipitant since the > solution limit > > goes up when you heat it. > > Diluted it by 50%, tyndall approximately halved, > indicating once again > > that the cloudiness is NOT a silver compound with limited > solubility > > Added a! nother 50 or so ppm of H2O2, no change. Added 500 > or more ppm of > > H2O2 and it cleared up. I have no idea what that means. > > Added ammonia (ammonium hydroxide), tyndall did not > change, proving that > > the cloudyness is from colloidal particles not from any > molecular > > compounds of silver precipitated. > > Checked for color, none noted, meaning that the particle > size is either > > very small, so the absorption is in the uv range, or very > big so the > > absorption is in the infrared range. Strong tyndall > implies large > > particles though. Will let sit for 24 hours and see if > anything > > precipitates out, if we have large particles I expect to > see it clear > > upon sitting. > > > > I am making another batch now. Before adding the H2O2 to > the entire > > batch, I plan on adding it to a few ounce a drop at a time > and try to > > figure out some more if the 3rd batch clouds up. > > > > Marshall > > > > > &g! t; > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release > Date: 12/29/2005 > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
