On 2017-12-17 01:20, Tim Stark wrote:
Folks,

Well, there are some PDP-11 tech docs indicates that higher models like 11/53, 11/73, 11/74, 11/83, 11/84, 11/93, and 11/94 have built-in own firmware ROMs at starting 160000 with switch bits for banking.

As Christian said, the 11/74 is not correct to include in this discussion, as it is in a different family.
All the others are J11 based machines, and somewhat similar.

Also, some variant of the 11/73 used a double height module, which did not include any boot roms, so that one does not have anything around this.

I can't remember how the 53, 83 and 84 works straight up, but I just went back and checked the 93 and 94. I think the others work the same, but someone should check.

Anyway, the 93 and 94 have an 8K EEPROM, which obviously is too big to all fit at the same time in the I/O page. However, it does not map into 160000 ever. There are two memory areas in the I/O page set aside for boot roms.
165000, holding 512 bytes.
173000, holding 512 bytes.

Usually 165000 holds self diagnostics, and the common code for booting, while 173000 holds device specific booting code.

The KDJ11 module can use neither, one, or both of these areas. If 165000 is enabled, it holds the basic, common code, which can then also boot using traditional M9312 boot roms, located in 173000. For this, the KDJ11 needs to disable its own use of 173000. If you have some module with its own booting in general, which uses 165000, you also should disable the KDJ11 use of that area (obviously). The enabling and disabling of the use of these areas are controlled by a CSR at 177520 (there don't seem to be a specific name for that CSR).

If the KDJ11 use either of these areas, they are bank switched. The KDJ11 creates the full address into the EEPROM by using the low 9 bits from the physical address, and the high bits come from a register called PCR (177522). One byte is used for the 165000 area, and one byte for the 173000 area.

All this is documented in the 11/93 and 11/94 manuals.

  Johnny

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