I am sorry about the lack of information there. I am using ubuntu 18.04 and i
compiled the master simh files. I am running open oponvms 7.3 as a vax not the
alpha as of yet. I plan on running a 2 ro 3 server cluster on a del server
sc1420 with 16 gigs of mem and 2 xeon 2 core cpu running at 3.2 planning on
upgrading to 3.8. The client pc is just a plain notebook running ubuntu 18.04
and i want to run this in a zepher server as put described in the youtube
videos ... I read your post about the simh.video and i will most likely wait
for that but will experiment with this. thanks for your quick replay. i have
been sick and running really low on rest and trying to get over a very severe
upper respiratory invection so i am not thinking correctly LOL and from the
looks of all the miss spelled words i need to get some rest before i try.
thanks again
Phil
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From: Mark Pizzolato <[email protected]>
To: "Hittner, David T [US] (MS)" <[email protected]>, Phil King
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Subject: Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Simh Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
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Everything Dave said is right, with the additional consideration that maybe he
just wants to run Motif directly on the simh VAX simulator using the QVSS board
which can be enabled if the simulator is built with libsdl2-dev package
available.
If this is the goal, then some folks have observed less than ideal (possibly
useless) mouse tracking behavior on some host systems other than Windows. I’m
working right now with a developer (Ian Schofield) who has solved these along
with performance issues in the sim_video code. I expect that things will be
clean enough to commit in the master branch ‘soon’. When that happens, we’ll
announce that fact to the list and the related open issues in the github issue
system.
So, Phil, if this is what you want to do, you might want to wait a bit. ☺
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T [US] (MS)
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You have asked for a rather generic X how-to without providing much of the
useful information needed to help instruct you.
The most important information is what X (windows/motif) Client you will be
running the applications on – this is usually the guest OS (OpenVMS, Tru64,
BSD, etc.) running in the SIMH simulation, and what X Server (usually run on
the PC that you want to connect to the guest OS) that you will be running.
>From your email we might presume OpenVMS on SIMH VAX, and the native X server
>(Gnome?) on Ubuntu. If you provide more server and client information, someone
>can provide more detailed instructions.
Generally:
1) Install the X Client software (applications) on the virtual system
(guest OS). If this is DecWindows/Motif on OpenVMS, read the fine installation
manual - making sure to follow the AUTOGEN instructions to start up the
windowing system on boot and adding enough reserved memory to prevent detached
application crashes. :-)
2) Install the X server on the graphical visualization system (usually a
PC). This is already done if running Linux on a PC in graphical mode. On
Windows, install your favorite X Server software (Pathworks, Hummingbird,
Attachmate, PuTTY, MING, etc.)
3) On the X Server side, make sure the permissions are set to allow the X
Client’s IP (guest OS IP) to display to the X Server.
4) Connect from the X Server system to the X Client system via Telnet,
SSH, or a native X Server connection interface, depending on the X Server
system’s capabilities.
5) On the X Client side, start up the X application (XClock, Xterm, etc.)
and export the X application session to the X Server visualizer (PC). The
export and start up method methods vary depending on the X Client and guest OS.
I would recommend starting with XClock or XEyes as your simplest connection
tests.
Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 12:26 PM
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Hello
May i ask for a how to manual for running windows motiff i use all the
instructions for every body i find and i still get can not display or somthing
like that i dont have it in front of me..
i am using ubuntu 18.04 on both my notebook and my dell server.. The dell
server is going to be my cluster server as soon as i can get the first instance
working .. so please let me know.
Phil
thanks in advance
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Subject: Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
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To follow up a little more on this.
The call to tcsetattr() is failing with errno: 13 – Permission denied
From: Mark Pizzolato
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Subject: RE: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
I did a little digging and struggled with typing a whole bunch on my
phone.
The problem you’re seeing is due to the Linux OS environment you’re
running under doesn’t support ‘raw’ mode for terminal I/O. When you
start a simulator the traffic to/from the simulated console device is
expected to be exactly the characters that the user types on the console
keyboard. To achieve this, the current tt mode is gathered with tcgetattr()
then those attributes are adjusted so that every character typed is received
without any interpretation by the OS and output is also not translated (i.e.
\n only sends a LF character instead of CRLF characters). The error message,
you seeing is due to the call a tcsetattr() failing.
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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Mark Pizzolato
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 8:38 PM
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>;
simh
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
Subject: Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
If you’re not comfortable digging into this yourself, then please create an
Issue at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues
<https://github.com/simh/simh/issues%20> and spell out exactly how to
recreate your setup and reproduce the problem.
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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Ray Jewhurst
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 5:48 PM
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Subject: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
Greetings
I have been trying forever to get simh to run under the Termux Android shell
app and got very close but no cigar. It builds okay but then when I try running
it, it starts fine but when I go to run an OS, I get this:
PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current git commit id: f2f4bfa8
sim> do rt1154f.ini
Disabling XQ
rt1154f.ini-3> b rk0
sim_ttrun() returned: Console input I/O error
sim>
Any ideas?
Thanks
Ray
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