libsdl1-dev i read this some ware in one of your post that this is needed to 
compile simh vax in linux to run the video i tried to recall from memory but 
one spelling is not my thing and my short term mem is not all that great once 
in long term good. Hey i am sorry to be such a pain but as i said i am a big 
fan of your work .. I can afford to have the real thing and your emulators work 
like i would never expect. Thanks for making them free. I will donate as soon 
as i get some things settled here with my home and health. i will send the 
other info you requested shortlythanks in advancePhil 



Philip King 4681 Carr Rd Hillsboro Ohio 45121 9374421909 [email protected] 

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Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 14:17:14 -0700
From: Mark Pizzolato <[email protected]>
To: Phil King <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
    <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Simh] simh not loading the video driver when compile
    with libcbl-dev
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Hi Phil,

Dave suggested how DECWindows is started when the system boots, but it isn’t 
clear that you done everything else that might be necessary for that to be 
useful.

You mention libcbl-dev, but I’ve never heard of that.  Maybe you’ve mistyped 
something.

A little more information will be useful to help you:

1)      Please provide the output produced when you built the simulator you are 
working with.

2)      Please provide the configuration file you are using to setup and run 
your simulator

3)      Please provide the output produced when you enter SHOW VERSION at the 
“sim> “ prompt when running the simulator in question.

- Mark

From: Simh [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil King
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 10:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Simh] simh not loading the video driver when compile with libcbl-dev

Is there anything i need to do to get openvms to load the video driver it is 
compile with with the proper dev lib

Phil
thanks in advance

Philip King 4681 Carr Rd Hillsboro Ohio 45121 9374421909 [email protected]


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From: Gene Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: Mark Pizzolato <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Ray Jewhurst <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,  
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
    <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
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interestingly enough the pdp8 simulator seems fine. At least with rx devices

On Thu, May 10, 2018, 2:33 PM Gene Irwin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

> Same issue on my desktop.
>
> I have used this very same process on older versions with my desktop
> running an AMD FX processor, linux mint 18, and it has worked.
>
> I went to the trailing edge page and went to the software kits section and
> downloaded the 2 RSTS images.
>
> I have looked in my archived copies if the kit, and the file sizes for the
> disk images in my archived copy match the newly downloaded one.
>
> an older copy of the pdp11 executable on my system mounts the image fine:
>
> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Beta        git commit id: 9d2079df
> sim> set cpu 1m
> Disabling RK
> Disabling HK
> Disabling TM
> sim> at rl0 rsts_full_rl.dsk
> sim>
>
> But the current build does not (same image file):
>
> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current        git commit id: c1894a7d
> sim> set cpu 1m
> Disabling RK
> Disabling HK
> Disabling TM
> sim> at rl0 rsts_full_rl.dsk
> RL0: non expandable disk rsts_full_rl.dsk is smaller than simulated device
> (2617KW < 2621KW)
> File open error
> sim>
>
> this image I am using (rsts_full_rl.dsk) is newly downloaded from the kits
> page on the
> trailing edge site.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM Mark Pizzolato 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>> First, please follow the exact same steps (grabbing the same disk image),
>> using the same configuration file on any of your other favorite simh
>> hosts.  If this produces the same result, then it's not a platform problem.
>>
>> In any case, precisely describe the steps, configuration file and source
>> of the disk image.
>>
>> Let me know what you find.
>>
>>  - Mark
>>
>> On May 10, 2018 9:24 AM, Gene Irwin 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok. So I switched to my tablet  (Samsung tab a) running 7.1.1 and things
>> built fine.  I pulled the software kit for rsts and when I tried to mount
>> the prebuilt rl0 the simulator errored.
>>
>> RL0: non expandable disk rsts_full_r.dsk is smaller than simulated device
>> (2617KW < 2621KW)
>>
>> File size according to ls -l is 5235200
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 4:52 PM Mark Pizzolato 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Skip the AltairZ80 for now.  The change that caused the redefinition was
>> done to potentially help the AltairZ80 author to fix the glob.h missing
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pull the latest and you should hopefully be able to build all but the
>> AltairZ80 simulator.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh 
>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>>  *On Behalf Of *Ray
>> Jewhurst
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 4:17 PM
>> *To:* Gene Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Cc:* simh <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> I just got that error too and now after doing a make clean, I cannot
>> build anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 6:45 PM Gene Irwin 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm having issues compiling on the note 8 with android 8.
>>
>> Getting glob.h not found on the altairz80 and most give a warning about
>> redefinition of *DIR_ENTRY_CALLBACK
>>
>> Kernel if 4.4.78
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM John Forecast 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Works fine for me - LineageOS 14.1 (which is basically Nougat 7.1) on a
>> Nexus 7 tablet.
>>
>>
>>
>>  John.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Mark Pizzolato 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The github master branch code should now work under termux on Android for
>> at least Marshmallow on up.  I have tested Marshmallow and Oreo.  I would
>> appreciate confirmation on other Android versions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      Install termux from the Google Play Store
>>
>> 2)      Under termux, Install the tool chain:
>>
>>    $ pkg install clang make git
>>
>> 3)      Testing with:
>>
>>    $ git clone https://github.com/simh/simh
>>
>>    $ cd simh
>>
>>    $ make vax
>>
>>    $ BIN/vax
>>
>>    sim> B
>>
>> If you end up at the >>> prompt everything looks good.  If you did this
>> without a physical keyboard connected, you won’t be able to type Control-E
>> to get back to the sim> prompt.  Just enter B ZZZ which is an unknown
>> device and the boot ROM will halt returning you to the sim> prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you get that far, all the other simulators should build fine and be
>> usable pretty much like on most other Linux environments.  Things which
>> require root access won’t work since termux doesn’t give you that.  It
>> would be interesting to know if NAT mode networking works for the VAX
>> simulators…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 8, 2018 11:00 PM
>> *To:* Mark Pizzolato <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Ray 
>> Jewhurst <
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; simh 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>>
>>
>> Give the latest github code a try.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, what Android version is running on your phone/tablet?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the output of ‘uname –a’ in your termux session?
>>
>>
>>
>> -          Mark
>>
>>  __
>>
>> *From:* Simh 
>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 8, 2018 8:13 AM
>> *To:* Ray Jewhurst <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> simh <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> >
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> To follow up a little more on this.
>>
>>
>>
>> The call to tcsetattr() is failing with errno: 13 – Permission denied
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:47 PM
>> *To:* Mark Pizzolato <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Ray 
>> Jewhurst <
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; simh 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a little digging and struggled with typing a whole bunch on my
>>
>> phone.
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem you’re seeing is due to the Linux OS environment you’re
>>
>> running under doesn’t support ‘raw’ mode for terminal I/O.  When you
>>
>> start a simulator the traffic to/from the simulated console device is
>>
>> expected to be exactly the characters that the user types on the console
>>
>> keyboard.  To achieve this, the current tt mode is gathered with
>> tcgetattr()
>>
>> then those attributes are adjusted so that every character typed is
>> received
>>
>> without any interpretation by the OS and output is also not translated
>> (i.e.
>>
>> \n only sends a LF character instead of CRLF characters).  The error
>> message,
>>
>> you seeing is due to the call a tcsetattr() failing.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh 
>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 5, 2018 8:38 PM
>> *To:* Ray Jewhurst <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> simh <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> >
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> If you’re not comfortable digging into this yourself, then please create
>> an
>>
>> Issue at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues 
>> <https://github.com/simh/simh/issues%20> and spell out exactly how to
>>
>> recreate your setup and reproduce the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh 
>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Ray Jewhurst
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 5, 2018 5:48 PM
>> *To:* simh <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Subject:* [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been trying forever to get simh to run under the Termux Android
>> shell app and got very close but no cigar. It builds okay but then when I
>> try running it, it starts fine but when I go to run an OS,  I get this:
>>
>>
>>
>> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current        git commit id: f2f4bfa8
>>
>> sim> do rt1154f.ini
>>
>> Disabling XQ
>>
>> rt1154f.ini-3> b rk0
>>
>> sim_ttrun() returned: Console input I/O error
>>
>> sim>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>
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