On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote:
> You mean real RSX, not POS?

So, IIRC, P/OS was built on top of RSX11.  It was the menu system and
application framework, but under the covers, it was all RSX11.  I
remember if you had the (development option?) you could drop to a DCL
prompt and do whatever you liked with it.

> > 1) I'm assuming RSX-11m is where I should be focusing my work - even
> > though my personal systems were RSTS based, (with an occasional boot
> > of RT11 to test stuff)  i feel RSX-11m is the more 'complete' and
> > modern OS (contextually speaking).  Does this make sense?
>
> Not necessarily.  It depends a bit on what you want to do.  As Johnny points 
> out, if you want TCP/IP, the only RSX will do thanks to his work.  (Or Unix I 
> suppose, but I assume we're talking DEC operating systems.)  If you want to 
> write device drivers, RSX or RT are options, RSTS is not.  (At least not in 
> the sense of something you can do from documentation -- it *can* be done and 
> has been but unless you were part of the RSTS/E engineering team it's quite 
> tough to pull off.)  If you want something really fast and skinny, RT-11 is 
> the obvious answer.  RSTS/E of course is the place for traditional 
> timesharing.
>
> If you are looking for places to run application programs you might have 
> lying around, RSTS/E is probably a very good answer.  It has both RT11 and 
> RSX emulation that's quite solid.  Some real time features may not be great, 
> though they should be faked adequately.  For example, RSTS doesn't have ASTs 
> or asynchronous I/O (except some disk and tape I/O in V9.0 and later) but the 
> emulation will fake it.  Similarly, you can run user interfaces that feel 
> like RT11 or RSX, at least superficially.  And DCL in V9 or V10 is very good.

It really does come down to "what do I want to do with this" doesn't
it?  I'm not a strong programmer outside of high level languages
(though I know a half dozen assembler variants)

I was in college when I started most of my DEC experience, and that
was all on 11/730's.  Vaxen running VMS.  I wrote a ton of stuff in
BASIC-11 that used ReGIS to display stuff via the GIGI terminals.
When I worked for a DEC reseller later, the Pro/350's we had ran a
bunch of ReGIS demos that were awesome.  I think my ultimate goal is
to have a GIGI (or, I suppose, anything htat supported ReGIS, which
includes a VT240 I believe) connected to the PiDP11 running graphics
stuff.   RSTS/E or RSX11 will do either of these things just fine I
think.

I guess mostly I want DCL, EDT, ability to telnet in, and ultimately a
ReGIS terminal.

Oh, and if we're talking ponies, if I could play Empire... one last
time... :) :) :)

Right now I'm focusing on finishing up the PiDP11 front panel -
hopefully that'll be in the next week, then i'll have my blinkenlights
:)

-- 
Dave Shevett
shev...@pobox.com
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