What's the legality of doing something like modifying simh so it bypasses the 
license check?

isn't vms of x86 redundant?
I mean essentially it's just simh kinda. thatd be the quick way to do it.

I'm going to post a new thread semi related because I really want the groups 
consensus on a question about vms future

Dan

Try: https://www.grammarly.com

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From: Simh <simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com> on behalf of Mark Pizzolato 
<m...@infocomm.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:37:04 PM
To: Kevin Handy <khandy2...@gmail.com>; Hunter Goatley <goathun...@goatley.com>
Cc: Simh <simh@trailing-edge.com>
Subject: Re: [Simh] OpenVMS Hobbyist Program


VSI hasn’t said anything about this.  Only HPE has.  All we know now that that 
HPE is getting out of the Hobbyist business.



Your point is exactly why I had asked if VSI views the Hobbyist user community 
a plus or minus.  Only VSI can answer that, and we’ve got some 22 months for 
any answers to be had and any details to be worked out.  We are definitely not 
circling the drain yet.



Let’s wait a bit until all the relevant players  have had a chance to speak.



From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Handy
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:28 PM
To: Hunter Goatley <goathun...@goatley.com>
Cc: Simh <simh@trailing-edge.com>
Subject: Re: [Simh] OpenVMS Hobbyist Program



With VMS only available for obsolete hardware, the  main people keeping the 
knowledge alive is the hobbyests. With the loss of the hobbyist program, 
there's going to be a lot of hard feelings left behind. IWon't that cause VSI 
problems when the finally get an X86 version going? The VMS supporters are 
going to feel like they've been burned too many times Why would someone choose 
VMS, who keep dropping out, over Linux or Windows, which seems to be taking 
over in the area's VMS used to hold.

It just seems to be a bad deal for VSI's future.



On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Hunter Goatley 
<goathun...@goatley.com<mailto:goathun...@goatley.com>> wrote:

On 3/8/2020 8:57 AM, Craig Berry wrote:
> HPE does not need to be selling or supporting the software in order to 
> collect royalties from those who do, and I suspect the commercial emulator 
> vendors have the ability to issue PAKs for new and transferred VAX licenses, 
> and make money for themselves and for HPE when they do so.

Good point. I had assumed HPE was the only entity doing that, but that
may not be the case.

Hunter


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